Donald Trump is digging his own grave

[sooda]

No lying needed. I proved that was not the case. Don't blame me for your inability to understand a logical concept.



it is hard to take your claim that you understand what an ad hominem fallacy is when you can't even spell it. Let me try to explain to you. Bill has shown that he cannot be trusted. Your source would require us to take a dishonest person that has never owned up to his last lies and idiocy. He cannot be taken seriously as a result. He is not a valid source.


There is a reason that newspapers publish their errors. They know that when they make an error, and it is all but impossible not to make one, one must acknowledge those errors when uncovered if they want others to continue to respect and trust them. Bill has not done this he no longer can be trusted.

Vet your sources.



That is not true. You repeatedly demonstrate that you do not understand even when explained to you repeatedly along with a more thorough source. You also never even clearly stated his claims, you only claimed that Bill somehow proved something. That was an appeal to a false authority, another logical fallacy on your part.



Not really an attack, more of an observation.



He did not prove any point and you neglected to quote his supposed point. You did use him as an authority.



Repeating your errors does not help your case.



Please, you should know better by now. You forgot our debating history. Let's not make false claims about honesty.




I am sorry but that makes no sense at all. And it still does not explain Trump's illegal activities.


Please, don't be silky. Of course he broke campaign finance laws. Why do you think that he is calling his pants? And yes, he did pressure the Ukraine by holding up their aid from us. Have you not been following this at all?

Lead story on Drudge.

TRUMP RECRUITS CHINA IN ELECTION FIGHT
TALKED BIDEN WITH XI IN CALL
DRUDGE REPORT 2020®

The only defense Republicans have now is, "yeah, he's breaking the law, so what?" and that is a very dangerous place for a country to be in. And that defense won't work on 30+ Republican Senators. This is already over.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lead story on Drudge.

TRUMP RECRUITS CHINA IN ELECTION FIGHT
TALKED BIDEN WITH XI IN CALL
DRUDGE REPORT 2020®

The only defense Republicans have now is, "yeah, he's breaking the law, so what?" and that is a very dangerous place for a country to be in. And that defense won't work on 30+ Republican Senators. This is already over.

Wow! Even the conservative Drudge report is pointing out Trump's law breaking.

I have been watching CNN and 58% of the U.S. wants an impeachment hearing. That does not mean that 58% of Americans want Trump removed. They realize that the only way to get to the bottom of this is a full blown investigation and hearing. Right now only 48% say that they want Trump removed. Heck! Did I just say only? That means that a plurality wants him removed. That is incredible. When it moves to over 50% the Republicans are apt to start to pressure Trump to resign. I think it is only a matter of time now.

 

[sooda]

Wow! Even the conservative Drudge report is pointing out Trump's law breaking.

I have been watching CNN and 58% of the U.S. wants an impeachment hearing. That does not mean that 58% of Americans want Trump removed. They realize that the only way to get to the bottom of this is a full blown investigation and hearing. Right now only 48% say that they want Trump removed. Heck! Did I just say only? That means that a plurality wants him removed. That is incredible. When it moves to over 50% the Republicans are apt to start to pressure Trump to resign. I think it is only a matter of time now.

I think so too.. God, he's a horrible man. I will be so glad to see him gone with his family of grifters.

 

[Jollybear]

No, I don't have to lie. You have a faulty understanding of what an ad hominem fallacy is. You failed in not even presenting an argument to start with. You were lazy and your source was rightfully rejected.



Yes, one can, but it really does not bode well. And, yes you gave wikis definition and I gave a more thorough one. Wiki is a good starting place, but it is not the be all and end all.


No, I am repeating the facts. You tried to use a bogus authority.



Once again, I neither lied nor did I use an ad hominem.




No you made a bogus claim without any quotes. You claimed that he showed that he thought that Biden was corrupt. That is only an opinion and does not help your case. You would need quotes to show the evidence that Biden was corrupt, but the last I checked you did not understand the concept of evidence either.



I do believe that I said you might be able to call it an ad hominem attack, but even that is questionable since what I stated can be defended. Is it an ad hominem if the claims are true?



Because you could not state your case clearly.



A typo is excusable. Constantly misspelling the term that you are arguing about not so much.

Try again.



Gladly. But first we settle this. No moving of the goal posts. That is deflection and not a proper debating technique.

More lies, rationalization and projection.

At this point your a waste of time.

But, i will dive into the last part, when i ask you to tell me how trump broke the law, how is that moving the goal post? Im asking something totally related to the topic.

 

[Subduction Zone]

More lies, rationalization and projection.

At this point your a waste of time.

But, i will dive into the last part, when i ask you to tell me how trump broke the law, how is that moving the goal post? Im asking something totally related to the topic.

No, no, no. You do not get to falsely claim that I lied just because you cannot think rationally and then demand an answer to your deflection. Nor was that what I ordered to answer. When you are rude you what you demand from others.

I told you that I would explain how Trump broke the laws. How about a little honesty on your part for once? If you can't be honest yourself it is rather hypocritical to claim that others are not honest.

 

[Jollybear]

No, no, no. You do not get to falsely claim that I lied just because you cannot think rationally and then demand an answer to your deflection. Nor was that what I ordered to answer. When you are rude you what you demand from others.

I told you that I would explain how Trump broke the laws. How about a little honesty on your part for once? If you can't be honest yourself it is rather hypocritical to claim that others are not honest.

Theres a point where after you keep lying, its a foolish waste of time to keep correcting you.

Your drunk off add hominem fallacy. The fact you correct my spelling is just more add hominem fallacy. You seriously cant get enough of doing this. You refuse to learn because your stubborn.

Also, your grammer sucks ****. Which i think grammer is more important then spelling.

This part > "When you are rude you what you demand from others."

The structure of that sentence is insane.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Theres a point where after you keep lying, its a foolish waste of time to keep correcting you.

Your drunk off add hominem fallacy. The fact you correct my spelling is just more add hominem fallacy. You seriously cant get enough of doing this. You refuse to learn because your stubborn.

Try again. I have not lied. You can't see your error.

And no, correcting your spelling was an indicator. You keep repeating your errors. I said it did not bode well for your ability to understand the concept of an ad hominem, and that prediction was shown to be correct. I did not claim it meant that you could not understand the concept. You might have had a valid point if I made that claim.

You can never learn it you do not own up to your errors.

 

[Ouroboros]

Lead story on Drudge.

TRUMP RECRUITS CHINA IN ELECTION FIGHT
TALKED BIDEN WITH XI IN CALL
DRUDGE REPORT 2020®

The only defense Republicans have now is, "yeah, he's breaking the law, so what?" and that is a very dangerous place for a country to be in. And that defense won't work on 30+ Republican Senators. This is already over.

Wow. I'm quite impressed with our president. This joke is extremely elaborate. He involved Xi in the joke before he spoke on tv? Outstanding. He's such a joker. Hah. Hah. Hah...(!)

During a phone call with Xi on June 18, Trump raised Biden's political prospects as well as those of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who by then had started rising in the polls, according to two people familiar with the discussion

So... he's not targeting his opponents in the election, at all, no... he's just trying to get rid of the oppositio... sorry, corruption.

 

[sooda]

Wow. I'm quite impressed with our president. This joke is extremely elaborate. He involved Xi in the joke before he spoke on tv? Outstanding. He's such a joker. Hah. Hah. Hah...(!)


So... he's not targeting his opponents in the election, at all, no... he's just trying to get rid of the oppositio... sorry, corruption.

Trump is like a whirling dervish.. king of chaos.

 

[Ouroboros]

Trump is like a whirling dervish.. king of chaos.

I read somewhere that it's his management style in business. He treats everyone as crap, misinform, deny allegations, normalize his faults and mistakes, and attacks and accuse everyone. He never takes responsibility or apologizes. In the chaos he creates, he can move unhindered and do whatever he likes. And people around trying to keep order and balance on things are constantly confused, so he gets away with it.

--edit

Bonus question to Christians, who is the Lord of Chaos and Deceit in the Bible? Belzetrump?

 

[sooda]

I read somewhere that it's his management style in business.

He treats everyone as crap, misinform, deny allegations, normalize his faults and mistakes, and attacks and accuse everyone. He never takes responsibility or apologizes. In the chaos he creates, he can move unhindered and do whatever he likes.

And people around trying to keep order and balance on things are constantly confused, so he gets away with it.

That's pretty much the way I've heard it.. Can you imagine his poor wife?

I know he bought her, but even so.

 

[Ouroboros]

That's pretty much the way I've heard it.. Can you imagine his poor wife?

I know he bought her, but even so.

Yeah. Can't even imagine.

 

[Jollybear]

Try again. I have not lied. You can't see your error.

And no, correcting your spelling was an indicator. You keep repeating your errors. I said it did not bode well for your ability to understand the concept of an ad hominem, and that prediction was shown to be correct. I did not claim it meant that you could not understand the concept. You might have had a valid point if I made that claim.

You can never learn it you do not own up to your errors.

I understand ad hominem fallacy. So do you. But, your pretending its something else its not. You do this because your lying to yourself. I can see through that lie.

Also, more bad grammer >
"You can never learn it you do not own up to your errors."

The sentence should have been like this >
'You can never learn it IF you do not own up to your errors.'

 

[sooda]

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Yeah. Can't even imagine.

Trump has bragged and bragged about defeating ISIS..

He's a real crud.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I understand ad hominem fallacy. So do you. But, your pretending its something else its not. You do this because your lying to yourself. I can see through that lie.

Also, more bad grammer >
"You can never learn it you do not own up to your errors."

The sentence should have been like this >
'You can never learn it IF you do not own up to your errors.'

If you did you would not repeat your errors.

And sorry, that was typed on my tablet which does have a bad case of autowrong. It will frequently change a correct word for a wrong one. If I do not carefully go over the posts sometimes one slips through.

 

[sooda]

If you did you would not repeat your errors.

And sorry, that was typed on my tablet which does have a bad case of autowrong. It will frequently change a correct word for a wrong one. If I do not carefully go over the posts sometimes one slips through.

Please, Post this from twitter.

Jennifer Griffin on Twitter

 

[Subduction Zone]

Please, Post this from twitter.

Jennifer Griffin on Twitter

I will copy and paste later. Our great leader strikes again.

 

[Jollybear]

If you did you would not repeat your errors.

And sorry, that was typed on my tablet which does have a bad case of autowrong. It will frequently change a correct word for a wrong one. If I do not carefully go over the posts sometimes one slips through.

No error. You are a lier, period. If you want to learn and debate, great, if not, then your a bad man.

And two of your sentence structures had error now. If you want to make excuses, i can easily do the same thing about mispelling hominem as hominum.

My "excuse" is i spell it as i pronounce it. Furthermore, the english language evolved, it did not come with a bunch of set rules and structures. The rules came later.

 

[sooda]

Theres a point where after you keep lying, its a foolish waste of time to keep correcting you.

Your drunk off add hominem fallacy. The fact you correct my spelling is just more add hominem fallacy. You seriously cant get enough of doing this. You refuse to learn because your stubborn.

Also, your grammer sucks ****. Which i think grammer is more important then spelling.

This part > "When you are rude you what you demand from others."

The structure of that sentence is insane.

How about this from a draft dodger?

Trump Gets Pilloried After Dismissing Kurds for Not Helping U.S. at Normandy: ‘Most Disgusting, Disgraceful Thing’ He’s Ever Said

Trump Mocked for Saying Kurds Didn't Help U.S. at Normandy

 

[Prometheus85]

Heres a part of the transcript between ukraine president and trump.

"President Zelenskyy: Well yes, to tell you the truth, we are trying to work hard because we wanted to drain the swamp (a.k.a corruption) here in our country. We brought in many many new people. Not the old politicians, not the typical politicians, because we want to have a new format and a new type of government. You are a great teacher for us and in that.

The President: Well it's very nice of you to say that. I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time."



I didnt make up anything. And i quoted the other part in the article you gave, apparently you ignored it, and im not gonna waste time flipping back to find the article to repaste the section when you should have accepted it when i first pasted it.

If you actually do research instead of quoting out of context, you would understand that it wasn’t the former administration that was corrupt it was individuals within Ukraine that was corrupt. Like I said you made up Donald trump acknowledging corruption in the former administration. So I’ll asked again, why would trump give 200 million to the former president whom he didn’t trust according to you?