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Donald Trump is USA president

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hello all


I heard in news officially Trump win the US election,
that's what predicted before months ago.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
This is right after Brexit. I seriously think more people should reconsider the value they place on democracy and whether democracy is really as beneficial or important as many believe it is. It has horribly failed twice just this year so far in two votes that have effects reaching a global scale and led to monumentally destructive and irrational decisions.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
This is right after Brexit. I seriously think more people should reconsider the value they place on democracy and whether democracy is really as beneficial or important as many believe it is. It has horribly failed twice just this year so far in two votes that have effects reaching a global scale and led to monumentally destructive and irrational decisions.
Good analyze
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
People that Trump demonised and belittled during the election need to worry this includes among others... Hispanics, Muslims, Gays and women.

The world is voting for ignorance and self destruction of all things decent.
Trump is just a rather nasty symptom.
selfishness, fear of education, fear of cooperation, fear of other people, insularity and lack of empathy are all features of the new order. The lowest possible denominatior of humanity
is the new arbiter.

Where and what next?
These were the same attributes that informed brexit.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
People that Trump demonised and belittled during the election need to worry this includes among others... Hispanics, Muslims, Gays and women.

The world is voting for ignorance and self destruction of all things decent.
Trump is just a rather nasty symptom.
selfishness, fear of education, fear of cooperation, fear of other people, insularity and lack of empathy are all features of the new order. The lowest possible denominatior of humanity
is the new arbiter.

Where and what next?
These were the same attributes that informed brexit.
I think there would be some kind of VIP and riches, Hispanic and Muslims to enter to USA .

That's not big problem, about what I excepted , that He may will make a war against Iran,NK, thats cause human/economic/polution crisses. may turn to China and Russia wars .
I think Trumps is had emotional reactions like teenagers,not wise enough.
 

Thanda

Well-Known Member
This is right after Brexit. I seriously think more people should reconsider the value they place on democracy and whether democracy is really as beneficial or important as many believe it is. It has horribly failed twice just this year so far in two votes that have effects reaching a global scale and led to monumentally destructive and irrational decisions.

It is not democracy that has failed. The Elite has failed and the people are giving the elite the middle finger

Edit: By Elite I mean political Elite - I realise Trump himself is also an elite.
 

Thanda

Well-Known Member
I think there would be some kind of VIP and riches, Hispanic and Muslims to enter to USA .

That's not big problem, about what I excepted , that He may will make a war against Iran,NK, thats cause human/economic/polution crisses. may turn to China and Russia wars .
I think Trumps is had emotional reactions like teenagers,not wise enough.

I think the exact opposite. I think he might be the president who finally focuses more on his own country than on others people's countries
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
It is not democracy that has failed. The Elite has failed and the people are giving the elite the middle finger

Edit: By Elite I mean political Elite - I realise Trump himself is also an elite.

Well, you said yourself that Trump is an elite, yet so many people voted for him. How do you explain that as "giving the elite the middle finger"?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Trump is America's middle finger. And its all a fraud, he's Mr. Establishment, tax cuts only to the rich and powerful, austerity to the middle class and especially the poor.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I think the exact opposite. I think he might be the president who finally focuses more on his own country than on others people's countries
Same tone heard I heard it before by some people about my prediction of his wininng.

That's what you think, my opinion he will involve in wars.

Some of the keys not belong to him(belong to AIPAC),and some keys under his emotional reaction , so wars is coming.

Germans in past vote for Hilter to make Germany great,so he turned it to wars.
 

Kartari

Active Member
I'm absolutely horrified. I didn't get any sleep.

Morons. A country of backwards, ignorant morons. There is no kind way to put this. There are a lot of gullible people in my country who have been taken in by a crazy con artist. They bought the propaganda, and now the United States and the world at large will suffer greatly for it. These morons are so upset over a friggin email server and unfounded conspiracy theories that they think the better option is (demonstrably) the compulsive liar of the two candidates, a demonstrably incompetent businessman (four bankruptcies and fewer profits via his business ventures over his lifetime than if he'd invested all his inherited money in stable funds... you want that guy in charge of the economy?!), who has promised to take the presidency by force if he wasn't elected (subverting democracy and becoming a dictator), discard several fundamental rights we cherish (or I thought we cherished) as American citizens including the freedoms of religion, from cruel and unusual punishment, and several other rights guaranteed via the constitutional amendments as spelled out in the Bill of Rights (which he sees fit to **** all over), has picked up and run with the complete fiction that illegal immigration is on the rise (it is on the decline in fact, with more illegals leaving than entering the country) and promised to build a wall which will do absolutely nothing about illegal immigration in reality but appeal to racist feelings and garner their votes, a man who retweets a lot of white supremacist statements, and so on and so on but, best of all, a man who stated he'd "blow out of the water" foreigners in boats who merely made rude gestures to Americans, meaning don't be surprised if we end up warring with Iran, Korea, Mexico, China, or any other nation in the world (except his beloved role model Putin's Russia) merely if someone from those countries hurts his personal feelings...

To say that Trump is entirely unqualified to be president is a gross understatement. I can only hope Trump's distance with the Republican party keeps them at odds with one another, keeping his lunacy in check.
 

Kartari

Active Member
Hi Debate Slayer,

This is right after Brexit. I seriously think more people should reconsider the value they place on democracy and whether democracy is really as beneficial or important as many believe it is. It has horribly failed twice just this year so far in two votes that have effects reaching a global scale and led to monumentally destructive and irrational decisions.

No, no, democracy is not the problem. Indeed, Trump's been advocating policies that are anti-democracy. The problem is with the people: our ignorance, and our lack of discernment for quality information. We live in a time when there's an overabundance of information quantity, but the quality of that information is another matter entirely. We have people living in different worlds, where those who watch Fox News (which has been inciting rage in conservatives and moderates against Clinton and ignoring Trump's insanity) for instance perceive a very different set of candidates than the real candidates. Many people seem more interested in emotionally reacting to, rather than rationally responding and dealing with, the nation and the world. Democracy works best, but only when the people use their brains!
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
This is right after Brexit. I seriously think more people should reconsider the value they place on democracy and whether democracy is really as beneficial or important as many believe it is. It has horribly failed twice just this year so far in two votes that have effects reaching a global scale and led to monumentally destructive and irrational decisions.

Rest in peace, liberal democracy. Though you were in our lives only a short time you helped to build our societies up. We barely knew ye...
 
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