Don't the Hinduism (Dharmic) people need a concise Scripture?

[LuisDantas]

@paarsurrey , I know that it may be difficult for those coming from a Muslim (or Christian) perspective to understand, but there is really no need to choose just one among the various traditions and teachings, except perhaps when they are actually at odds with each other.

Atheism, particularly, is only incompatible with certain beliefs because those beliefs impose that limitation on themselves.

Hinduism never needed to agree on much of anything. It is not a religion of submission to the letter of the scripture, but rather of taking responsibility for the flow of the teachings. And the teachings do not exist in the scripture nearly as much as they exist on the living minds and hearts of dedicated adherents.

Nor are Hindus forbidden nor unable of learning and sometimes claiming co-adherence from Buddhism, either. Quite a few actually believe that Buddhism is in some sense an eccentric branch of Hinduism. That is not always something that I approve of, but we all should attempt to learn constructively from other people if we can help it.

 

[YmirGF]

And you have never told us about the "plethora" that you have "Beyond the Light" in store for you. Tell us something about that if it is a plus (+) point.
Hope you don't mind. Now don't be angry with me. Please
Regards

That is rather beyond the scope of this thread, Paarsurrey. If I thought you could understand the answers I might be inclined to explain in another thread, say, in the One-on-One section?

 

[The_Fisher_King]

1. When one's heart opens to the meaning of a verse and the verses in the context, one is at peace with one's understanding.
2. When one's understanding is aligned with
   The Holy Quran : Chapter 1: Al-Fatihah الفَاتِحَة, the Ummul Kitab, the satisfaction increases many times.

Quran is a Revealed Scripture :
[2:3] This is a perfect Book; there is no doubt in it; it is a guidance for the righteous,

So what you are saying is that only when one's understanding of a text corresponds with what (you think) the Qur'aan says about something, that is the correct understanding? All other understandings/interpretations are incorrect?

 

[The_Fisher_King]

I love the founders of all the revealed and all their scriptures in the world,my pleasure to read them.
Is your religion a revealed one? Please name it, your denomination, its founder and his scripture that he received from G-d.

Let me ask you again, how do you define a 'revealed' religion? What distinguishes a 'revealed' religion from a 'non-revealed' religion?

 

[Jainarayan]

I value your friendship.
I checked Vaishnava ,before posting, with the Wikipedia:
Vaishnavism (Vaishnava dharma) is one of the major traditions within Hinduism along with Shaivism, Shaktism, and Smartism. It is also called Vishnuism, its followers are called Vaishnavas, and it considers Vishnu as the Supreme Lord. View attachment 13536

Please Google the world "Vaishnava" and one gets the image and the information both together.
I never claimed any scholarship or piety, I am an ordinary man on the street walking on the Truthful path, still heading towards more Truth or the Absolute Truth.
Regards

Are you standing on your assertion that image is of a Vaishnava sadhu? If you are I must tell you the ground you're standing on is shakier than LA during The Big One. That is indeed a Shaiva sadhu. You can tell by the matted hair and top knot, and horizontal vibhuti on his forehead. That is in imitation of Lord Shiva.

Btw, at the risk of irreverence bordering on blasphemy (but the Lord has a sense of humor) he looks boss with the beard. It's not a typical image.

 

[paarsurrey]

View attachment 13537
Are you standing on your assertion that image is of a Vaishnava sadhu? If you are I must tell you the ground you're standing on is shakier than LA during The Big One. That is indeed a Shaiva sadhu. You can tell by the matted hair and top knot, and horizontal vibhuti on his forehead. That is in imitation of Lord Shiva.
Btw, at the risk of irreverence bordering on blasphemy (but the Lord has a sense of humor) he looks boss with the beard. It's not a typical image.

No, I took it from Wikipedia.
I would like a human face without any artificial colors on the forehead. It does not matter to me as to what colors or no closures one chooses. The thinking one has and as ot what one has in the heart has the importance,sadhu or no sadhu.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

So what you are saying is that only when one's understanding of a text corresponds with what (you think) the Qur'aan says about something, that is the correct understanding? All other understandings/interpretations are incorrect?

I think you are have understood correctly.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

That is rather beyond the scope of this thread, Paarsurrey. If I thought you could understand the answers I might be inclined to explain in another thread, say, in the One-on-One section?

Let others also share and give their comments, here.
What is bad about it? Please
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

submission to the letter of the scripture

Not submission to the scripture but to the Being who has authored it, it is the essence of the Universe beyond time and space.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

I know that it may be difficult for those coming from a Muslim .....perspective to understand

Islam is inclusive of all truth in all the religions and non-religions, nothing is truthful out of it. Now please don't be angry, no disrespect intended to anybody, please.
Regards

 

[YmirGF]

Let others also share and give their comments, here.
What is bad about it? Please
Regards

Nope. It would quickly derail your own thread.

 

[YmirGF]

Islam is inclusive of all truth in all the religions and non-religions, nothing is truthful out of it. Now please don't be angry, no disrespect intended to anybody, please.
Regards

Bur it only admits to truth that is echoed by Islamic teachings. Islam is pretty forceful against ideas it disagrees with and with those who hold said ideas.

 

[LuisDantas]

Not submission to the scripture but to the Being who has authored it, it is the essence of the Universe beyond time and space.
Regards

I'm not a believer in that Being myself, but don't you think that if he exists, our rational abilities are ultimately a particularly precious gift from Him?

Surely there is no mistake nor shame in making the best possible use of such a gift, without necessarily feeling bound to any scriptures.

 

[LuisDantas]

Islam is inclusive of all truth in all the religions and non-religions, nothing is truthful out of it. Now please don't be angry, no disrespect intended to anybody, please.
Regards

I'm not angry. I am sad. How many other people are in this same situation as you, meaning well yet persisting in fairly serious mistakes?

 

[von bek]

Btw, at the risk of irreverence bordering on blasphemy (but the Lord has a sense of humor) he looks boss with the beard. It's not a typical image.

I agree. I think I have seen, once or twice, Shiva depicted with a beard. Makes sense that he would be bearded, though. I mean, he smears himself with ashes, grows his hair out until it is matted, sits on a tiger skin, yet he still finds time to shave every morning!

 

[Jainarayan]

No, I took it from Wikipedia.
I would like a human face without any artificial colors on the forehead. It does not matter to me as to what colors or no closures one chooses. The thinking one has and as ot what one has in the heart has the importance,sadhu or no sadhu.
Regards

Why does it matter to express publically what you like other people to do or not do in their faiths? It's long past obvious and clear that you're making judgements on another faith that you haven't got the slightest understanding of. I think it's time that we take the hooks out of our mouths and snip the fishing line.

 

[Jainarayan]

I agree. I think I have seen, once or twice, Shiva depicted with a beard. Makes sense that he would be bearded, though. I mean, he smears himself with ashes, grows his hair out until it is matted, sits on a tiger skin, yet he still finds time to shave every morning!

Personally I like it, for the reasons you mentioned.

 

[paarsurrey]

Why does it matter to express publically what you like other people to do or not do in their faiths? It's long past obvious and clear that you're making judgements on another faith that you haven't got the slightest understanding of. I think it's time that we take the hooks out of our mouths and snip the fishing line.

I don't make any judgement on others, sorry, if they misunderstand me.
I just inform them out of love of them, it is nothing more than that. please.
Regards

 

[Nyingjé Tso]

Vanakkam

Oh, so this thread was not a real question or debate or innocent curiosity, but a way to get us to understand that we are a dead religion and that fortunately Islam is here to shake us from this nonsense and get on the one proved true path !

This is getting Old

*-Shrugs-*

Jai, fancy some Mango lassi away from here ? That hook got my mouth all itchy.

all are welcome to now desert this thread and let it die, really don't think there is anything more to say or debate here.

Aum Namah Shivaya

 

[von bek]

Sorry to state that Hinduism is a dead religion, no life in it, in the sense that its plethora of scriptures don't lead one to
recognize , know and have Converse with G-d (Brahman) . Islam/Quran enliven the humanity from their dead thoughts, concepts, creeds and philosophies.

This is what the thread was about from the very beginning. Surprised it took seven pages to have it said...