Subduction Zone
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No, there are not any more "lefties" it is just that people with compassion or intelligence have been leaving the Republican party in record numbers.
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No, there are not any more "lefties" it is just that people with compassion or intelligence have been leaving the Republican party in record numbers.
PruePhillip
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Oh, ok, so these aren't lefties, they are just compassionate people.
And people who prioritize family, enterprise, thrift, personal responsibity, freedom of speech, law and order, proper education, religion, minimal government, social capital and the like are not intelligent or compassionate.
The Marxists and neo-Marxists don't have much track record with intelligence or compassion, either now or in history.
Subduction Zone
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It is just as big of a mistake to think of all of those on the left as Marxists and neo-Marxists as it is to think that all those on the right are some sort of fascist. You need to ease up on the Black and White Fallacies.
By the way, most of those traits that you think are held by those on the right, are not. At least not as much as they are held by people on the left. Just because someone does not follow your terribly flawed "morals" does not make them immoral. Once again, I would be that most are more moral than you are.
PruePhillip
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Marxism is about oppressed and oppressor narratives. This diverged to form Communism and National Socialism in the 20th Century.
If you hear people bang on about someone oppressed, ie colored people, the poor, trans etc you are dealing with someone who most likely holds to neo-Marxist sensitivities. If you hear someone calling for the mass subordination of people to an aggressive nationalistic consciousness you are dealing with a fascist.
The best politics is the political center - encourage enterprise, freedom but don't neglect those who fall through the cracks.
I saw an animation of how the two sides of the American spectrum have diverged over the years on a political graph. Sad.
Subduction Zone
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That is your interpretation, but so what? They are not the only ones that can oppress. The right oppresses more often than the left recently.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Which you haven't answered we note. Nor proffered a citation for your 47% bs stat you made up, nor explained what you claim to think is wrong with gay people? Tempus fugit...
Sheldon
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PruePhillip
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How many Republican supporting professors will you get on your average American campus in the humaties now?
Back in the '40's and '50's there was a reasonable balance. In some campuses now it's 100% Democrat, Green, Socialist, neo-Marxist.
And these people are churning out more of the same. That's why kids are going to be watching Disney cartoons about tampons, and men tampons too - indoctrination is going way beyond the campus.
Tell me how conservative values are expanding and being promoted in unis, the media etc.?
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Extremists tend to see extremism everywhere, it's in the nature of extremism.
PruePhillip
Well-Known Member
So how do YOU explain the sexualization of Disney cartoons with LGBT themes?
I am not extreme. If I was in America I would not have voted for Trump, I see myself as moderate.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Many of the views you have expressed here suggest otherwise.
PruePhillip
Well-Known Member
I don't see the Tea Party of the Trump brigade representing traditional Republican values.
I suggest the leftward drift of the Democrats saw a rightward drift of Republicans.
If I saw Democrats going deep into cultural Marxist territory with polygamy, pederasty, castrating children, taxing companies right out of the country etc I would be tempted to vote for someone seriously right wing in retaliation. And this applies to many Democrats too - you see Trump so you vote for Sanders in retaliation.
This is not good for any country. The danger is extremism.
In Australia we have Liberl and Labor (aka tweedle dee, tweedly dum) but they are moderate, centrist partiest. And I like them both.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Your extreme views are manifest in your posts, and I can't decipher, nor see any relevance in this latest disjointed rant? You seem yet again to simply be stringing random egregious behaviours alongside harmless behaviours, and assigning them all to viewpoints you don't like.
You still haven't told us why you think simply being gay is harmful, as you have more than once implied in several posts.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Pure unadulterated gibberish, and of course a perfect example of the extreme nature of your claims.
"'Cultural Marxism,' a conspiracy theory with an anti-Semitic twist, is being pushed by much of the American right."
"Right-wing ideologues, racists and other extremists have jazzed up political correctness and repackaged it — in its most virulent form, as an anti-Semitic theory that identifies Jews in general and several Jewish intellectuals in particular as nefarious, communistic destroyers. These supposed originators of "cultural Marxism" are seen as conspiratorial plotters intent on making Americans feel guilty and thus subverting their Christian culture."
"Of course, the phrase was basically a politically charged construct that was used to mock the left and even liberals. Challenges to gender bias, efforts to diversify the nation's universities, and similar policies were dismissed as attempts to turn the universities into "gulags" under the thumbs of left-wing thought police. The term was used to attack ideas while avoiding any discussion of their merits."
That sounds like much of your rhetoric here as well, you attack ideas, but have no interest in debating those ideas, as if your subjective views are facts.
PruePhillip
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Why do you disrespect someone's POV as 'disjointed, rant, egregious' ????
Having strong centrist governments, and broad middle class societies does a lot to make a nation strong.
I see America coming apart at the seams, and I blame it on the 'cultural war' that the Left has declared on the Right.
Seeing the Right lose on a social issue like gay liberation, to the point where the Right accepts the whole gambit of gay claims, simply means the Left will shift the argument to another issue, ie Trans. And upping the ante. So there's little chance these cultural wars will ever end, only get more extreme. I read that some American schools have books on boys having fellatio on men - when I was growing up 'sex education' was about fallopian tubes, chromosomes, wombs and the like.
KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
Are you ok?
PruePhillip
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Fine, I haven't been castrated fortunately, though an increasing number of kids have been. Male to female surgery is kinda gross, so too is removing 14 year old girl's breasts.
Pederasty is slowly arriving. I mentioned above teaching boys about boy to man fellatio - that's in some American school library books now.
Polygamy is the fast growing social issue I have observed in polls of moral issues in America - it's about 20% approval now. The people who declare they are opposed to the idea could soon be the ones forcing it down our throats. That's how it happens.
So sure, I am ok. I am not sure the world is ok.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
I have no respect whatsoever for many of the views you have expressed, that's why. That they are disjointed rants is manifest in the posts.
PruePhillip
Well-Known Member
Define 'rant' please.
KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
You don't sound ok. Is there anything I can do?