Burl
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Coincidently the hurdle of being Gay was removed from the U.S Immigration obstacles at around the same date.
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Downward spiral of morals in America.
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I'm not the one that wrote the bible, and the bible states God's feelings on this issue, so how in the world could it be my hubris when I follow the bible? Would you like scripture to verify God's feelings on this?
By propagating stupid and despicable lies?
Lies? I think not.
- Leviticus 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
- Leviticus 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
- 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
- Romans 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
Homosexuality has a heavy judgment administered by God Himself upon those who commit it and support it.
Romans 1:26-27, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."
As a result of being "given over", they can no longer see the error of what they are doing. They will not seek forgiveness, and they will not repent. They will then die in their sins and face God's righteous condemnation. But, their rebellion against God does not stop there. Those who are judged by God this way, also promote their sin and condemn others who don't approve of their behavior.
Romans 1:32, "...and, although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them."
So, in their "hearty approval" of homosexuality, they encourage others to accept their practice, and so their sin and rebellion against God spread. This means they will reject Christ's redemptive work on the cross. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, they will have no salvation. Without salvation, there is only damnation in eternal hell. We Christians don't want this for anyone. We want them to experience the great love of God through the person and work of Christ who died for our sins (1 Peter 2:24).
Persecution of the non-politically correct?
The Bible's view of homosexuality is not politically correct - and this is a concern. Will the Bible soon be considered hate speech by the moral-less majority? There is already significant social pressure being put on the American populace to accept homosexuality as normal and healthy. Homosexuality is promoted in movies, television, magazines, schools, etc. Social re-engineering is well underway. Yet statistically, only 3% of the population are homosexuals.2 Christians, on the other hand, occupy a far higher percentage, 70%3 yet they are not fairly represented in the media. Instead, Christians are routinely portrayed as bigots, narrow-minded idiots, hypocrites, and worse. Why? Because there are little tolerance and equality from the left for those who disagree with them. The social attitude of America is slowly being engineered to accept liberal sexual behavior while condemning and silencing those who disagree. Since behavior follows belief, what is to stop our increasingly liberal society from acting on its silence-the-opposition attitude and become more and more harsh in its dealings with Christians? Nothing. In fact, there are increasing calls to get Christians kicked off of social networks for speaking out against homosexual marriage. Silence the Christians! At work, many Bible believers are told to go through sensitivity training in favor of the LGBT community, even though such "sensitivity training" is highly offensive to them. If they don't go, they can be fired. It seems that sensitivity must be shown towards the homosexuals, but never towards the Christians. This hypocrisy is blatant and dangerous.
And then there is the increase in lawsuits. Will homosexuals attend churches for the purpose of asking pastors to perform a wedding and then when they are refused, they sue? Will they seek out Christian owned businesses and ask to have a cake baked, a wedding photographed, or music played at their homosexual wedding and then file a lawsuit when Christians who are holding to their religious convictions refuse to comply? It is already happening, and such legal attacks are on the increase. In light of this, I suggest that you look at history to see what politically correct momentum can do in and to a society. Think of Nazi Germany and the Jews. Do some research on communist Russia and its persecution of dissenters in the 1900s. History is full of examples of how those in politically correct power oppress those who don't agree with them. If you think the comparison is too extreme, then you join with many throughout history who said "It will never happen", and then sat by and watched it manifest
First you would have to give me a reason to believe that scripture has anything to do with God. Lots of people have tried, but the "evidence" always comes down to an unsupported assertion of human authority.
Tom
Because, and this may be hard to believe, not everyone believes in your God or feels bound by what he says.
As has already been pointed out, the P stands for pansexual. Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Intersex, Asexual and Pansexual. Second, pedophilia is not child molestation. Lots of people have paraphilias too, such as attractions to animals (zoophilia). Like pedophilia, zoophilia is in the mind and can be overcome without beastiality actually happening. But when people need help are afraid to seek it because of public scorn, then there's a problem. Rather like the woman with the never-ending menstrual cycle who was afraid to approach Jesus and get help because of public scorn, so she tried to do it in a very illegal way instead.
At any rate, comparing sexual relations to a non-consenting child to two consenting adults is so far on the false analogy spectrum that I always half suspect Poe's Law is in play.
At any rate, comparing sexual relations to a non-consenting child to two consenting adults is so far on the false analogy spectrum that I always half suspect Poe's Law is in play.
Yes, lies.
In the OP you asserted that pedophilia was now acceptable to any decent people.
It is not.
Tom
That's a two way street, don't you think? What makes other people's belief better than mine, sounds quite bias, actually it's very bias to the point of being absurd.
Burl
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The consenting adults decreed:
"The proposal to distinguish paraphilic disorder from paraphilia derives from the fact that the diagnostic criteria for the paraphilias have two components: Criterion A, defining the presence of a paraphilic erotic interest, and Criterion B, requiring clinically significant distress, impairment, or acting out the paraphilia with a nonconsenting person. Meeting Criteria A and B is necessary for a diagnosis of paraphilic disorder; meeting only Criterion A indicates a paraphilia." (underline mine)
http://www.jaapl.org/content/39/2/250.full
I'll leave it to others to decide whether or not you're confessing the truth when you state "I think not," but you are, indeed, disseminating an ugly and despicable homophobic lie when you claim:
Your OP is characterized by a deplorable stench which we've all experiences far too often.
If one person's beliefs are based on unsupported assertions and lies, and another person's are not, I definitely make a distinction.
Tom
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Or purported to have said. I try to lessen the credence of the association wherever possible. I don't just disbelieve in their imagined god I have considerable doubt that such a theoretically brilliant being would ever stoop to worrying about how we expressed the sexuality it supposedly gave us. The micro-managing image of god is so passe.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Some of us more than others, Jay and to think the writer of the OP actually played the Nazi persecution card. That adds a whole new level of depravity to this basket of deplorable's.
jonathan180iq
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That's convenient...
Who wrote the Bible, exactly?
1 Corinthians 13:1-2
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. aprophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, bso as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
Also, where is your great rant on the Biblical perils of lying?
Do you have a source that the P stands for pedophilia? Preferably from some authoritative source on the matter?
Key word here being "authoritative". To some people Focus on Family is an authority.
Tom
That statement is false. The LGBTQ community has done no such thing. And if you wish to dispute that, then cite references where prominent or otherwise members of the community identify themselves as members of the "LGBTQP" community where the "P" stands for Pedophilia.
This is mere proselytizing and can be dismissed as a violation of Forum Rule Number Eight.
Another gross misrepresentation.
For those with an inclination towards fairness and honesty, compare the above false and ugly garbage with this explanation of section 302.2: Pedophilic Disorder DSM-5 302.2 (F65.4) .
I did. And you apparently don't have a clue what the section is about. Your apparent lack of comprehension is appalling.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
Seems the OP is not much concerned with truth or facts.
Akivah
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LGBTQIPA is the newest acronym. http://www.urbandictionary.com/tags.php?tag=lgbtqp which stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning, Intersex, Pansexual, Asexual. As I stated in an earlier thread, adding additional letters becomes ridiculous. Let's just call all these people "Curly" to keep it clear.
I agree that society is spiraling downward in accepting more and more subsets of deviancy and immorality. It is sad that most people here are attacking you for trying to write about morality. There is a current societal (and political) trend developing that people that hold to morality should be banned, or maybe even outlawed. I don't understand how perversion is being elevated to being a societal norm. But the Supreme Court and this American Psychiatric group are helping this trend and going the wrong way.
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