Draw Muhammad day

[Gharib]

The extreme Muslim belief that you seem to be talking about is a deep love and respect for their religious leader. How could you criticise that?

"Stop loving your prophet so much"?

One of the best posts in the thread so far.

 

[beerisit]

The extreme Muslim belief that you seem to be talking about is a deep love and respect for their religious leader. How could you criticise that?

"Stop loving your prophet so much"?

If such deep respect and love is the cause of innocent people dying, the I can criticise it. Quite easily, I don't know how anyone cannot.

 

[beerisit]

Don't worry about it. It's nothing important.

Well it is important, because you claimed that the people murdered by Muslims were attacking Islam and therefore only had themselves to blame. Or were you talking about someone else?

 

[Gharib]

Well it is important, because you claimed that the people murdered by Muslims were attacking Islam and therefore only had themselves to blame. Or were you talking about someone else?

Please don't distort my statements like that again, I will report it from now on.

And don't bother asking because I never said what you are attributing to me.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

"The problem is that its not about degrading another religion.
For muslims its simply forbidden to draw Mohammad. Even if its in a completely neutral way."

I don't know Flankerl..I don't see how you can say "..its not about degrading another religion" ... when having/using images .."drawing Muhammad" is offensive.

If you know someone has strong feeling about such representations then why do it? Why go out of your way to offend people?

Freedom of speech?

I'm not a big fan of doing or saying something purely the offend people - but I'm an even less of a fan of people who think it is justifiable to murder innocent people just because somebody drew a cartoon that offends their ridiculously sensitive notions surrounding their chosen prophet. If I were somebody who is critical of religious beliefs, and I choose to express this criticism in the form of a drawing, I do not deserve to have my execution demanded in the street, or to be hunted to the extent I would have to force myself into exile, or that innocent people be murdered because of my actions.

Freedom of speech trumps ridiculous, jumped-up zealotry in every case. My right to express my view as I see fit should not be compromised in order to lend reverenve to a bunch of extreme zealots who think cartoons justify homicide.

To put it simply: such people deserve to be offended. So **** 'em.

 

[beenie]

Question for anyone who feels that killing over the depiction of Prophet Muhammad is justified:

If he were still alive, do you think he would kill someone for drawing a derogatory cartoon of him? Remember, these are non-Muslims drawing the cartoons.

 

[Nooj]

If such deep respect and love is the cause of innocent people dying, the I can criticise it. Quite easily, I don't know how anyone cannot.

No, I mean in what manner could you criticise their 'extreme beliefs'? Where do you find the fault in their beliefs?

 

[Father Heathen]

Stunning analogy. You are one very smart guy.

It was your analogy, son.

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The stick figure above? Totally Mohammad.

 

[Gharib]

I'm not a big fan of doing or saying something purely the offend people

Such hypocrisy.

I, personally, would take part in an international "Draw Muhammed Day", but would most certainly not do so strictly for the purpose of offending Muslims.

And, also, to offend Muslims.

 

[Father Heathen]

The extreme Muslim belief that you seem to be talking about is a deep love and respect for their religious leader. How could you criticise that?

"Stop loving your prophet so much"?

I'm sure you love your mom, but would you start murdering people at random in a frothing rage if someone drew a less than flattering picture of her?

Love doesn't justify disproportionate, irrational and unjust actions/reactions.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The extreme Muslim belief that you seem to be talking about is a deep love and respect for their religious leader. How could you criticise that?

"Stop loving your prophet so much"?

Do you not understand the difference between the position "love your prophet" and "demand the instant death of anyone who draws any kind of image of your prophet and any innocent people who attempt to protect them or prevent you from harming them?"

I don't object to people loving their chosen prophet. I object to people killing, or demanding death for, those who simply draw a cartoon of them. That's not love - that's psychotic barbarism.

 

[Gharib]

Question for anyone who feels that killing over the depiction of Prophet Muhammad is justified:

If he were still alive, do you think he would kill someone for drawing a derogatory cartoon of him? Remember, these are non-Muslims drawing the cartoons.

No one in this thread has said that they support the killing of innocent people. But that's what the Islamophobes of this thread want to hear in order for their "freedom of speech" card to hold validity.

 

[A Troubled Man]

Well ya know I live in the West and my roots go back a long time and it's still offensive to me to see people mock and degrade other peoples' religions.. The same argument was used when people demonstarted against the Vietnam war back in the sixties...If you don't like it go somewhere else... You know what happened to Rome...?

While I see your point, do you not think that those very same religions degrade non-believers by telling us we're evil infidels, that we should be avoided simply because we don't share the same beliefs? Are you saying it's perfectly acceptable for those who follow religions to say whatever they want about us but we are not allowed the same freedom of speech?

Just curious.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Such hypocrisy.

Do you know what a "joke" is? I could provide a definition, if it helps.

 

[A Troubled Man]

No one in this thread has said that they support the killing of innocent people. But that's what the Islamophobes of this thread want to hear in order for their "freedom of speech" card to hold validity.

I suppose it's perfectly acceptable for you to call others here Islamophonbes and a host of other names your religion teaches you to call us?

 

[Gharib]

While I see your point, do you not think that those very same religions degrade non-believers by telling us we're evil infidels, that we should be avoided simply because we don't share the same beliefs? Are you saying it's perfectly acceptable for those who follow religions to say whatever they want about us but we are not allowed the same freedom of speech?

Just curious.

Oh so it's OK to get offended when Muslims express their freedom of speech but it's not OK for Muslims to get offended when, in your words, an 'evil infidel' does it to us?

 

[Gharib]

Do you know what a "joke" is? I could provide a definition, if it helps.

No I don't, you might as well.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Oh so it's OK to get offended when Muslims express their freedom of speech but it's not OK for Muslims to get offended when, in your words, an 'evil infidel' does it to us?

They didn't say anything about the right to "be offended". Everybody has that right. The question is about freedom of speech.

 

[A Troubled Man]

The extreme Muslim belief that you seem to be talking about is a deep love and respect for their religious leader. How could you criticise that?

Because, their religious leader has passed down words to them that criticize us as non-believers.

 

[Gharib]

I suppose it's perfectly acceptable for you to call others here Islamophonbes and a host of other names your religion teaches you to call us?

What happened to freedom of speech?