Don't you just love it when someone accuses you of something with a snarky remark with nothing to back it up and disappears from the thread,i used to think you were quite amusing but it seems you are just emotional and confused.
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Draw Muhammad day
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Don't you just love it when someone accuses you of something with a snarky remark with nothing to back it up and disappears from the thread,i used to think you were quite amusing but it seems you are just emotional and confused.
Nooj
none
Yes I do understand the difference. Respecting and loving the prophet is a motivation for peacefully protesting as well as using violence.
While you yourself may be opposed to the violent methods which some Muslims use and not their reasons for defending their prophet, that's not the case for everyone in this thread.
Some people want Muslims to change so that they don't take offence at criticism to Muhammad. The only way this can come about is if Muslims stop loving and respecting Muhammad. Others just want to offend Muslims, full stop. They couldn't care less if all Muslims peacefully protested. The idea that people follow a 'paedophile murderer' is offensive to their sensibilities.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I'm only a "Islamophobe" if hypocrisy and hysteria are exclusive to Islam.
A Troubled Man
Active Member
Then, you have me at a loss here. What embassy was burned down and in what country?
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
What a perfect distortion of what I said, you almost got away with it.
I wasn't justifying the murders. But you don't like it when I say that do you.
So eselam, no-one has supported the killing of innocent people and you are correct. As you claim the people who performed those acts were attacked and merely responded to that attack. So even though you don't support the killing of innocent people (over a drawing) you are prepared to justify it. So I guess we can be sure that the murdered people were in fact the aggressors. I'm just wondering how many of them had even seen the drawing much less had anything to do with it. This is important since the drawing is the ATTACK, with which you have justified the murders.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
That's not what she agreed to, but thanks for your dishonesty and for pretending like you have a clue about what is being discussed.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
What do I know. I'm just a Muslim.
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Resident Liberal Hippie
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Nobody, but you seem to be legitimizing their response as merely "offense", denigrating those who draw Muhammed by saying that they should expect a "tiger" to bite, and dismissing any argument about "freedom of speech" as being "islamophobic".
Guess what? It's not. It's what people in a civilized society do - they permit other people freedom and don't think that they should deserve death because of it. And when people exist who do believe that others deserve to be killed just because of what they believe or how they choose to express it, we rightly condemn those people and accuse them of being barbaric, evil or sick. So far, all you've really done is make excuses for such people. I'm not saying you agree with them, but your incapability to admit that there is anything disproportionate, wrong or inherently psychotic about such a response indicates that you seem desperate to find some kind of way of pointing fingers away from the Muslim community at large and, instead, point at the people whose freedom of expression caused such a rabid response.
If you want people to understand (as some of us on here do) that such a response is not universal for the Muslim community, then you have a duty to stand side-by-side with those of us who condemn such hyperbolic responses as barbaric, and instead you should be engaging in reasonable discussion on the subject. That's what people in a civilized society should do.
Well, do you think I would be justified in threatening murder on those who impose on freedom of speech? If I carried out such a threat, would you call my response "offense" and call those who I murder (or intent to murder) people who just "got bitten by a tiger"?
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
Why do you like to be so dishonest mate?
Pastek
Sunni muslim
That's incredible...
Who said it was ok to kill someone for drawing the Prophet ?
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Again, no one said you were justifying the murderers, but you did heavily imply that those who drew Mohammad shared some, if not all, of the blame and responsibility for those deaths.
Oh no mate it's me who's telling the truth. Apparently it sometimes hurts. You don't support the actions but you provide justification for those actions.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
By the tiger example I meant the fact that Muslims find these drawing offensive and we do react to them. Some go over board, however, we do take big offence by them. So if you don't like us burning buildings and killing innocent people, which shouldn't happen anyway, then stop insulting us. Get it?
So like I said, if you enter the cage and the tiger bites you then next time you know better not to enter it's cage. And in this case you know Muslims get offended so don't offend us.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
No one said that it was OK to kill innocent people, that was just a question asked to clear things up because some people want Muslim members to say that it is OK to kill innocent people and that will make them happy.
Yes Islam uses fear to rule and you'd better fear us.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
Anything you say mate.
A Troubled Man
Active Member
Sorry, are you actually claiming there are no arson laws in Damascus? That burning down any building is perfectly legal there?
While it is likely the Syrian regime did nothing to uphold their laws in that regard, it certainly doesn't make it legal.