Easter. What's with all the plastic eggs, chocolate rabbits & such?

[Saint Frankenstein]

I was in church last week and they were talking about Easter and I couldn't help but remember the South Park episode about it, How Stan was frustrated with the Holiday and he didn't understand what painting eggs had to do with Jesus. Then he discovered that it's because Saint Peter was a rabbit and that's why they have those big hats (For rabbits big ears) and that The pope was never supposed to be a person but was supposed to be a rabbit.

The point is, Easter is silly. It's just a Holiday for kids in my family. Sure you can remember Jesus and think about Him, But you can do that any day of the week. Easter is a Catholic pagan weird mess that a lot of Protestants keep away from, Same as Christmas.

Easter is celebrated by all Christians - including Protestants - except for certain small sects. Do you not believe that the Resurrection of Christ is worth celebrating? Stop with the Catholic bashing.

St. Peter and the Pope's mitre has nothing to do with rabbits. The mitre comes from the regalia of the ancient Jewish High Priests.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

JW are pretty particular about keeping close to scripture and follow scripture closely.

No, they follow what the Watchtower tells them to believe closely and change what the Bible says to fit their doctrines. Of course you'll deny it since JWs are not allowed to question the Watchtower or go against what it says.

 

[Thana]

Easter is celebrated by all Christians - including Protestants - except for certain small sects. Do you not believe that the Resurrection of Christ is worth celebrating? Stop with the Catholic bashing.

St. Peter and the Pope's mitre has nothing to do with rabbits. The mitre comes from the regalia of the ancient Jewish High Priests.

I'm not Catholic bashing Saint, I don't know why you always go there.

Yes I believe the Resurrection of Jesus is worth celebrating, But I don't need a holiday that has very deep, very obvious pagan roots to do it. And Easter is cultural for most Protestants, Same as Christmas. It's certainly not treated the same or taken as seriously in Protestantism as it is in Catholicism.

And yes I know the Pope's hat has nothing to do with rabbits, I was just explaining the plot of that particular South Park episode.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm not Catholic bashing Saint, I don't know why you always go there.

Because you referred to Easter and Christmas as "weird Catholic pagan messes". You've also insulted the Orthodox, who make up the second-largest body of Christians in the world, and who take the liturgical calendar just as seriously as Catholics (some would say even more so because there's far less modernism in Orthodoxy than in post-Vatican II Catholicism, unfortunately).

Yes I believe the Resurrection of Jesus is worth celebrating, But I don't need a holiday that has very deep, very obvious pagan roots to do it. And Easter is cultural for most Protestants, Same as Christmas. It's certainly not treated the same or taken as seriously in Protestantism as it is in Catholicism.

And yes I know the Pope's hat has nothing to do with rabbits, I was just explaining the plot of that particular South Park episode.

As far as I know, most Protestants celebrate Easter as a religious holiday and not as a cultural celebration. Most Protestants, except for maybe High Church Anglicans that have a more liturgical form of worship, seem to celebrate only Easter and Christmas as religious Holy Days.

 

[ChristineES]

Because you referred to Easter and Christmas as "weird Catholic pagan messes". You've also insulted the Orthodox, who make up the second-largest body of Christians in the world, and who take the liturgical calendar just as seriously as Catholics (some would say even more so because there's far less modernism in Orthodoxy than in post-Vatican II Catholicism, unfortunately).


As far as I know, most Protestants celebrate Easter as a religious holiday and not as a cultural celebration. Most Protestants, except for maybe High Church Anglicans that have a more liturgical form of worship, seem to celebrate only Easter and Christmas as religious Holy Days.

I bought some chocolate bunnies, Peeps, marshmallow eggs, and cadbury cream eggs for my kids.

 

[Thana]

Because you referred to Easter and Christmas as "weird Catholic pagan messes". You've also insulted the Orthodox, who make up the second-largest body of Christians in the world, and who take the liturgical calendar just as seriously as Catholics (some would say even more so because there's far less modernism in Orthodoxy than in post-Vatican II Catholicism, unfortunately).

Um, what?
How did I insult the Orthodox, I didn't even refer to them?

And it is a 'weird Catholic Pagan mess'. It's Catholic, it's pagan and it's a mess. Where the Pagan influence ends and the true Catholicism begins no one knows. That is why I called it a mess.

As far as I know, most Protestants celebrate Easter as a religious holiday and not as a cultural celebration. Most Protestants, except for maybe High Church Anglicans that have a more liturgical form of worship, seem to celebrate only Easter and Christmas as religious Holy Days.

Well I have a different experience and understanding. It could be because I'm Australian, It could be because I'm Protestant, I don't know. But in my experience, Easter is generally cultural and easy going to everyone but Catholics. If you disagree then that's fine. I'm not asserting it as a universal fact, Merely sharing my experience and understanding.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Um, what?
How did I insult the Orthodox, I didn't even refer to them?

I told you why. The Orthodox celebrate Easter in a highly liturgical manner like Catholics do. So if we're a "pagan mess", so are they.

And it is a 'weird Catholic Pagan mess'. It's Catholic, it's pagan and it's a mess. Where the Pagan influence ends and the true Catholicism begins no one knows. That is why I called it a mess.

Actually, we do know. But Protestant anti-Catholics love to make an issue out it. The eggs, rabbits and such come from the cultural celebration of spring and have nothing to do with Catholic or Orthodox religious practice. Same with Santa Claus during the Christmas season or trick or treating during Halloween. Those are "pagan" hold-overs but have nothing to do with the Christian Holy Days they're linked to.

Well I have a different experience and understanding. It could be because I'm Australian, It could be because I'm Protestant, I don't know. But in my experience, Easter is generally cultural and easy going to everyone but Catholics. If you disagree then that's fine. I'm not asserting it as a universal fact, Merely sharing my experience and understanding.

Fair enough.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I bought some chocolate bunnies, Peeps, marshmallow eggs, and cadbury cream eggs for my kids.

We colored eggs, got candy and some toys. I'm 25 and I still like to have an Easter basket.

 

[ChristineES]

We colored eggs, got candy and some toys. I'm 25 and I still like to have an Easter basket.

I always get one chocolate bunny at Easter for myself.

 

[Thana]

I told you why. The Orthodox celebrate Easter in a highly liturgical manner like Catholics do. So if we're a "pagan mess", so are they.

Um, Okay. Sure.
I don't see why you had to bring that up though. The amount of people who subscribe to Orthodoxy isn't really relevant.

Actually, we do know. But Protestant anti-Catholics love to make an issue out it. The eggs, rabbits and such come from the cultural celebration of spring and have nothing to do with Catholic or Orthodox religious practice. Same with Santa Claus during the Christmas season or trick or treating during Halloween. Those are "pagan" hold-overs but have nothing to do with the Christian Holy Days they're linked to.

Ugh, I really don't want to get into all that. I called it a mess for a reason. Suffice to say, I'm not referring to the eggs and the rabbits.

Fair enough.

I'm glad we've cleared up that I wasn't Catholic bashing.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Um, Okay. Sure.
I don't see why you had to bring that up though. The amount of people who subscribe to Orthodoxy isn't really relevant.

I'm just saying that they factor into these discussions, too. They're often ignored and that's unfortunate. (Or maybe it's fortunate for them that they don't have to deal with these sorts of discussions.)

Ugh, I really don't want to get into all that. I called it a mess for a reason. Suffice to say, I'm not referring to the eggs and the rabbits.

Yeah, I know. Your anti-Catholicism isn't a new thing to me.

I'm glad we've cleared up that I wasn't Catholic bashing.

Not in that particular part of your post.

 

[Thana]

Yeah, I know. Your anti-Catholicism isn't a new thing to me.

Of course I'm Anti-Catholic.
I'm Protestant. You can't be Protestant and Pro-Catholic.

But I'm not bashing Catholics or Catholicism in this thread. You just overreacted.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Of course I'm Anti-Catholic.
I'm Protestant. You can't be Protestant and Pro-Catholic.

LOL. Thankfully you don't speak for all Protestants. Probably most of them have dumped it.

But I'm not bashing Catholics or Catholicism in this thread. You just overreacted.

You can deny it all you want. "Weird Catholic mess" is an insult.

 

[Thana]

LOL. Thankfully you don't speak for all Protestants. Probably most of them have dumped it.

You can deny it all you want. "Weird Catholic mess" is an insult.

Well, You're kind of proving my point. I called Easter a weird Catholic Pagan mess and you got all uppity about it, Because you take Easter seriously. Because you're Catholic.

I didn't mean it as an insult, I meant it was a mess. Something I didn't agree with. Why do you insist on being so sensitive about this?

And when I said Anti-Catholic, I should have clarified, I didn't mean Catholics as individuals I just meant Catholicism in general.
Pro-Catholic as in agreeing with Catholicism, Anti-Catholic as in disagreeing with Catholicism.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Well, You're kind of proving my point. I called Easter a weird Catholic Pagan mess and you got all uppity about it, Because you take Easter seriously. Because you're Catholic.

I didn't mean it as an insult, I meant it was a mess. Something I didn't agree with. Why do you insist on being so sensitive about this?

I don't care how you meant it. Calling one of our Holy Days (it's actually a Season, as with Christmas) a "weird pagan mess" is highly insulting and it says a lot about you that you do not recognize it as such.

I take Easter seriously because I'm a Christian. If you don't take Easter seriously and you say you're a Christian, I call that into doubt.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And when I said Anti-Catholic, I should have clarified, I didn't mean Catholics as individuals I just meant Catholicism in general.
Pro-Catholic as in agreeing with Catholicism, Anti-Catholic as in disagreeing with Catholicism.

You're not making yourself look any better.

 

[Thana]

I don't care how you meant it. Calling one of our Holy Days (it's actually a Season, as with Christmas) a "weird pagan mess" is highly insulting and it says a lot about you that you do not recognize it as such.

Fine, fine. If you're insulted, regardless of whether I think what I said was an insult or not, I apologize.
I will refrain from using the word 'mess' in the future, But that still doesn't take away the fact that I think Easter is a Holiday taken too seriously by Catholics and tainted too much by Paganism.

I'm just kinda surprised that you expect this level of PC-ness.

I take Easter seriously because I'm a Christian. If you don't take Easter seriously and you say you're a Christian, I call that into doubt.

Now you're just being petty and there's no need for it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Fine, fine. If you're insulted, regardless of whether I think what I said was an insult or not, I apologize.
I will refrain from using the word 'mess' in the future, But that still doesn't take away the fact that I think Easter is a Holiday taken too seriously by Catholics and tainted too much by Paganism.

I'm just kinda surprised that you expect this level of PC-ness.

It's not about being "PC". You can say whatever you please, but don't be surprised when you're called out for being insulting and incorrect.

Yes, how dare Catholics take Christian celebrations seriously!

Now you're just being petty and there's no need for it.

Like your insults?

 

[Thana]

It's not about being "PC". You can say whatever you please, but don't be surprised when you're called out for being insulting and incorrect.

Well.. except it is.
I didn't express myself in a way that you liked, And so I had to rephrase my opinion in a way pleasing to you.

Yes, how dare Catholics take Christian celebrations seriously!

Pagan.. celebrations.. That's my problem with it. They're not Christian celebrations they're Pagan celebrations that certain Christians stole and rebranded.

Like your insults?

I apologized for my perceived insults, What more do you want? Why are you being this way? I really don't understand. Is it personal or is it something else?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Well.. except it is.
I didn't express myself in a way that you liked, And so I had to rephrase my opinion in a way pleasing to you.



Pagan.. celebrations.. That's my problem with it. They're not Christian celebrations they're Pagan celebrations that certain Christians stole and rebranded.

So Jesus' Resurrection is "pagan"? You don't make any sense. If you keep calling aspects of Christianity "pagan", you might as well not be a Christian.

I apologized for my perceived insults, What more do you want? Why are you being this way? I really don't understand. Is it personal or is it something else?

When people insult and spread lies about your religion, do you enjoy it?