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Economists admit that tax cuts for the rich fail to trickle down

Audie

Veteran Member
I suppose the question then is, does increasing taxes on the rich help the poor?

I wonder if any studies have been done on that? :cool:

I've seen numbers for how long you could run the country on it if all their money were confiscated.

I forget but its like how long the lawn mower would run on starter fluid.

As for increasing taxes kind of depends
who / what is taxed. If I recall mitt Romney
lives off dividends and fat salary.

I could see trimming him a bit.

Naturally I don't like to be taxed, but as
nearly all of the money I "make" is plowed
back into development-jobs, housing,
rentals, I dont see how the government
taking that money to do whatever, is going
to benefit the poor.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Ok, didn't mean that one.

What items are you stating
are used for illicit purposes.

I've re-written my post using cammas.


"It mainly goes into share holders pockets, pension funds, owners slush fund. Very little trickles down"
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I've re-written my post using cammas.


"It mainly goes into share holders pockets, pension funds, owners slush fund. Very little trickles down"

Money that goes into anything but a sack under the bed has economic impact affecting everyone

I don't approve of slush funds, tho I still don't get your reference.

But if the money is spent it goes to someone then someone else etc. Fat cat buys big cigars, cigar store pays the window washer

Most anything beats letting the government get the money.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Money that goes into anything but a sack under the bed has economic impact affecting everyone

I don't approve of slush funds, tho I still don't get your reference.

But if the money is spent it goes to someone then someone else etc. Fat cat buys big cigars, cigar store pays the window washer

Most anything beats letting the government get the money.
I don't agree.
The wealthy (Not all I agree) spend money they don't need on investments and pensions, second homes in other countries, etc.
The needy when given extra money spend it at local shops on food and other essentials. The local area benefits from this, the shopkeeper spends the money local too and the money goes round and round.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Money that goes into anything but a sack under the bed has economic impact affecting everyone

I don't approve of slush funds, tho I still don't get your reference.

But if the money is spent it goes to someone then someone else etc. Fat cat buys big cigars, cigar store pays the window washer

Most anything beats letting the government get the money.
Unfortunately the government is not the best at spending money. I largely blame the House of Representatives and their rather short terms. They are always in running for reelection mode so very often rather than spending money wisely they spend it in ways that will ensure their reelection. There does exist a possibility of government spending it wisely but far too often that is not the case.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Unfortunately the government is not the best at spending money. I largely blame the House of Representatives and their rather short terms. They are always in running for reelection mode so very often rather than spending money wisely they spend it in ways that will ensure their reelection. There does exist a possibility of government spending it wisely but far too often that is not the case.

Not a one of them has any interest in being a good fiduciary.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I don't agree.
The wealthy (Not all I agree) spend money they don't need on investments and pensions, second homes in other countries, etc.
The needy when given extra money spend it at local shops on food and other essentials. The local area benefits from this, the shopkeeper spends the money local too and the money goes round and round.

Overseas tax havens are reprehensible.

But investments? ( incl pension funds which
a rich person doesn't need?)

Invest in what? Real estate development,
industry etc?
Thats jobs.

The govt gets your/ their money, THEN
you see it being sprayed overseas!

Need i give examples!

All the naughty rich in the USA couldn't fund that till
valentines day and then they're ducked dry looking in dumpsters.

Trickle down seemed to have no effect one way or the
other according to the cited article.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Not a one of them has any interest in being a good fiduciary.
I know. I used to support the Republicans because at one point they were better, but that was quite a few years ago. During the Clinton Presidency (and I could not stand the man) the opposition of the Republican Congress and the Democratic Presidency actually worked for a while. And even though I did not like him I do have to give Clinton credit for this. He could work with the opposition and together they passed bills that helped the debt, for a short while. I have not seen wise spending since that time.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Do you think Capitalism works for everyone or just the handful at the top? And if you do, how does it work for everyone?
Of course it works for everyone.
( discounting your drug addicts, and some others who won't particpate)

Some do better than others. Thsts life.
But more have more money and opportunity,
to put it mildly, than pre capitalism.

I look at Hong Kong, since its my home.
Please pull up a photo or two.

Capitalism did that. It was a couple of
dirty impoverished fishing villages, look at it now!

Nothing but nothing else could have done that.

Nothing in life is without flaw and need for improvement, but think that complaints about capitalism as such are very unfortunate.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member

Anybody see this? Tax the consumption rather than the income, so you get to keep your wealth in the country and also don't have so many tax loopholes etc. How you'd going about doing it is less clear to me.
 
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