Educating Illegal Immigrants

[Bennettresearch]

Then, assuming that the commission of crime is not limited to illegal immigrants, should you not be trying to get EVERYONE educated by whatever means it takes?

Hey Laz,

I live up here in latte liberalville and I will tell you that they do go to extremes. These kids are rounded up for school. What is funny is that once the population of the school is 5% mexican they start requiring everyone else to speak spanish. And people wonder why I am a conservative.

 

[Bennettresearch]

Well, gee...if I'd known that 2 years ago, I'd have simply not caught the plane back here. Stupid me for wanting to do it the legal way...

Hey Bastet,

You hit the nail on the head as to why illegal immigration is a problem today. It is unfair to allow a certain group to be overlooked while requiring anyone else to follow the law. Any time that someone wants to point to this fact it is the same old rhetoric about racism, xenophobia, etc. etc.

 

[Quoth The Raven]

Hey Laz,

I live up here in latte liberalville and I will tell you that they do go to extremes. These kids are rounded up for school. What is funny is that once the population of the school is 5% mexican they start requiring everyone else to speak spanish. And people wonder why I am a conservative.

Well, that's a fine idea. It's so much easier to teach 95% of the school community a new language than require 5% learn to speak the official language of the country in which they reside.:areyoucra
That's a prime example of where the tyrany of the majority is falling short...you conservatives just aren't pulling your weight.

 

[Ardent Listener]

Well, that's a fine idea. It's so much easier to teach 95% of the school community a new language than require 5% learn to speak the official language of the country in which they reside.:areyoucra
That's a prime example of where the tyrany of the majority is falling short...you conservatives just aren't pulling your weight.

And what is our so called "conservative" president doing about it?

 

[Quiddity]

Sorry, the same rules don't apply to you. If you are an illigal immigrant, other than Mexican, (O.T.M.) and you are found in the USA, you will not just be deported. You will be prosecuted.

Forgive me, but I quite honestly don't know what you are talking about. In the same court a Russian women was given immediate citizenship without prosecution. Mexicans are rarely given citizenship (just my experience from going to court over 15 times). Understandably, we have enough people here in the governments eyes.l Just wanted to clarify.

~Victor

 

[Ardent Listener]

Well, I for one am not in favor of "giving" any illegal immigrant citizenship. When and where are legal Mexican immigrants discriminated against when they seek U.S.citizenship?

 

[Quiddity]

Well, I for one am not in favor of "giving" any illegal immigrant citizenship. When and where are legal Mexican immigrants discriminated against when they seek U.S.citizenship?

Come to California. It's easier to see from here.

~VIctor

 

[Ardent Listener]

Come to California. It's easier to see from here.

~VIctor

Well what do you expect out there in California? That they should hand out citizenships along with the fake I.D.s and S.S.Ns? Maybe if there was not such a flood of illegal immigrants from Mexico in this country, it would not be so difficult for a legal Mexican immigrant.

 

[Darkdale]

Come to California. It's easier to see from here.

~VIctor

And how many illegals are there in California alone?

 

[Bennettresearch]

That's a prime example of where the tyrany of the majority is falling short...you conservatives just aren't pulling your weight.

Hey Laz,

We cower in fear of saying anything about it. :149:




Craig

 

[Bennettresearch]

And what is our so called "conservative" president doing about it?

Hey Ard,

If you took a deep look, he isn't a conservative, he is a liberal. Clinton was our conservative president.

 

[Quiddity]

Well what do you expect out there in California? That they should hand out citizenships along with the fake I.D.s and S.S.Ns? Maybe if there was not such a flood of illegal immigrants from Mexico in this country, it would not be so difficult for a legal Mexican immigrant.

Perhaps you are right. But it seems that many of the strong advocates against illegal immigration sometimes make it a purely Mexican thing. I've listened to talk radio enough times to have them spew all kinds of crap about Mexicans that goes beyond the topic of illegal immigration. I'm not troughing the race card at you, I'm just telling it how I see it. And NO I do not believe we should just hand them out like that. I'm just saying the the court system/border system/ and views of some Americans is skewed about the whole issue.

~Victor

 

[Quiddity]

And how many illegals are there in California alone?

I don't know, they never answer their doors.

~Victor

 

[Fluffy]

Just legalise it and this problem like many others will go away or at least no longer be problems on a legal level. I support mandatory education for those who require it (normally children) and this education should be state funded. I do not distinguish between natives, immigrants and illegal immigrants just as as I do not distinguish between the person living next door and the person living in Australia at least with regards to any significant difference.

 

[Ardent Listener]

Perhaps you are right. But it seems that many of the strong advocates against illegal immigration sometimes make it a purely Mexican thing. I've listened to talk radio enough times to have them spew all kinds of crap about Mexicans that goes beyond the topic of illegal immigration. I'm not troughing the race card at you, I'm just telling it how I see it. And NO I do not believe we should just hand them out like that. I'm just saying the the court system/border system/ and views of some Americans is skewed about the whole issue.

~Victor

As a citizen Victor, don't you believe that the United States goverment has the right to decide who enters this country or not? I think what upsets many Americans is that our laws are being broken and little or nothing is being done about it. Many Americans feel that our security, as a nation, is being threaten when anyone, Mexican or not, is able to cross the U.S./Mexican boarder illegally. Many of us also feel that our concerns are not being addressed by our leaders.

Don't get me wrong Victor, I know that most illegal immigrants are crossing the boarder only seeking a better life for themselves and are more than willing to work hard in order to do so. It is not them that I'm worrying about. It is those (Mexican or not) who come here only to do harm to this nation that is the problem. I also believe that something needs to be done with the class system in Mexico that forces the good people of Mexico out like that. The Mexican people are some of the most repressed people on earth. The wealthy class in Mexico has made them into virtual slaves there for many years, and the wealthy class in the U.S. is just about treating them as bad here now. It is high time for a big change down there in Mexico. Mexico can and should be a much better place for Mexicans to live. But I digress.

As per race, I'm sure that is a big factor with some people here. I hope neither you or anyone else takes this wrong, but I can't tell the difference between Mexicans and Puerto Ricians. Puerto Ricians are U.S. citizens and I have no problem with them moving to the United States. I feel that hespanic people, in general, assimulate well into this country. And if the majority language hapens to be Spanish some day, then so be it. Even I can figure out some of the words when I hear or read Spanish. But by God, it better still be the United States of America.

Back to topic, if there are children of any race or status who need medical care, food, shelter, or education then the answer to me is obvious. But let's fix this problem here and help Mexicans fix it in Mexico too!

 

[Pah]

... It is those (Mexican or not) who come here only to do harm to this nation that is the problem. ...

I would say that a very high majority (in the 90 percentile) enter legally with harm in mind.

 

[Ardent Listener]

I would say that a very high majority (in the 90 percentile) enter legally with harm in mind.

More like 90% with hunger in mind.

 

[Bennettresearch]

Perhaps you are right. But it seems that many of the strong advocates against illegal immigration sometimes make it a purely Mexican thing. I've listened to talk radio enough times to have them spew all kinds of crap about Mexicans that goes beyond the topic of illegal immigration. I'm not troughing the race card at you, I'm just telling it how I see it. And NO I do not believe we should just hand them out like that. I'm just saying the the court system/border system/ and views of some Americans is skewed about the whole issue.

~Victor

Hi Victor,

It is only because of the numbers. You have to admit that the influx of Mexicans is greater than any other group. As far as any other factor, I think the overt formation of a political bloc can be troubling to a lot of people. I lived in the LA area for seven years and pretty much got a good idea of what is going on down there. It is more than people just wanting to come into this country. Reconquista comes to mind.

 

[Bennettresearch]

Just legalise it and this problem like many others will go away or at least no longer be problems on a legal level. I support mandatory education for those who require it (normally children) and this education should be state funded. I do not distinguish between natives, immigrants and illegal immigrants just as as I do not distinguish between the person living next door and the person living in Australia at least with regards to any significant difference.

Yeah right.

Except that California is suffering under the strain to take care of people without federal aid for such but mandated by the federal government.

 

[Pah]

Yeah right.

Except that California is suffering under the strain to take care of people without federal aid for such but mandated by the federal government.

Ah yeah I agree but that, the unfunded mandate, seems to the federal and state government's probem. I don't go along with reduction of humanistic goals because you can't afford it. It sure seems that some of shrub's policies need better priorities