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Election Tamperings?

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Noncitizens find it easy to register to vote, cast ballots

I wonder if tampering from within is far worse than tampering from without.

What I really found interesting was this detail omitted from this report "
The woman’s voter log shows that she signed up as a Democrat in July 2012. In 2016, her registration was canceled after she informed election authorities that she wasn't eligible to vote because she wasn't yet a U.S. citizen."

She later registered as a Republican. why Democrat?

Has it been going on for a long time and now the boldness to violate laws is becoming evident?

Non-citizens legally register to vote in San Francisco school elections

Thoughts?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
For God's sake...here it's impossible that a non-citizen finds a way to vote...there are two preemptive controls
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
I wonder if tampering from within is far worse than tampering from without.
I don’t think playing them off against each other is constructive. They’re very different sets of issues that all need addressing.

She later registered as a Republican. why Democrat?
She says she didn’t register to vote at all. I believe there are cases of people being paid to register voters (on behalf of various parties) and that’s been one source of people being registered without their knowledge. That would explain the votes never actually being used in this case. I’ve not seen significant effort from any political direction to end this obviously flawed process.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Noncitizens find it easy to register to vote, cast ballots

I wonder if tampering from within is far worse than tampering from without.

What I really found interesting was this detail omitted from this report "
The woman’s voter log shows that she signed up as a Democrat in July 2012. In 2016, her registration was canceled after she informed election authorities that she wasn't eligible to vote because she wasn't yet a U.S. citizen."

She later registered as a Republican. why Democrat?

Has it been going on for a long time and now the boldness to violate laws is becoming evident?

Non-citizens legally register to vote in San Francisco school elections

Thoughts?

It is a moral view of the left I believe. If one is living as part of a community, they should share equally all privileges within that community.

Nationalism is evil.

na·tion·al·ism
ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm
noun
noun: nationalism
patriotic feeling, principles, or efforts.
synonyms: patriotism, patriotic sentiment, flag-waving, xenophobia, chauvinism, jingoism
"their extreme nationalism was frightening"
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Noncitizens find it easy to register to vote, cast ballots

I wonder if tampering from within is far worse than tampering from without.

What I really found interesting was this detail omitted from this report "
The woman’s voter log shows that she signed up as a Democrat in July 2012. In 2016, her registration was canceled after she informed election authorities that she wasn't eligible to vote because she wasn't yet a U.S. citizen."

She later registered as a Republican. why Democrat?

Has it been going on for a long time and now the boldness to violate laws is becoming evident?

Non-citizens legally register to vote in San Francisco school elections

Thoughts?
God forbid should foreigners from another country be involved in manipulating an election.

What are you going to do about it Democrats? You made your voice known about foreign interference in US elections.

San Francisco is your political territory. Get to work on it unless you want to be called hypocrites. Ah hmmm......
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Noncitizens find it easy to register to vote, cast ballots

I wonder if tampering from within is far worse than tampering from without.

What I really found interesting was this detail omitted from this report "
The woman’s voter log shows that she signed up as a Democrat in July 2012. In 2016, her registration was canceled after she informed election authorities that she wasn't eligible to vote because she wasn't yet a U.S. citizen."

She later registered as a Republican. why Democrat?

Has it been going on for a long time and now the boldness to violate laws is becoming evident?

Non-citizens legally register to vote in San Francisco school elections

Thoughts?
This isn't the tampering we should be worried about. It's the electronic voting machines that cannot be recounted or checked for internal program tampering. And now the republicans have eliminated what little oversight there was, so it's free reign for anyone wanting to rig the machines. And there's basically no way to catch them or correct the vote counts their rigged machines come up with.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
It is a moral view of the left I believe. If one is living as part of a community, they should share equally all privileges within that community.

Nationalism is evil.

na·tion·al·ism
ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm
noun
noun: nationalism
patriotic feeling, principles, or efforts.
synonyms: patriotism, patriotic sentiment, flag-waving, xenophobia, chauvinism, jingoism
"their extreme nationalism was frightening"

But they shouldn't have a say if they're not contributing via taxes.
It's like if you and your buddies are hanging out and want to order pizza, so you all chip in to cover the price. Then your neighbor shows up and invites himself in. He says he hadn't had lunch, so you feel kinda bad for him and figure you'll let him have a slice, but then while your friends are discussing what toppings to order the neighbor joins the conversation and tries to insist on mushrooms even though he hadn't contributed to paying for the pizza.
 
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Stanyon

WWMRD?
This isn't the tampering we should be worried about. It's the electronic voting machines that cannot be recounted or checked for internal program tampering. And now the republicans have eliminated what little oversight there was, so it's free reign for anyone wanting to rig the machines. And there's basically no way to catch them or correct the vote counts their rigged machines come up with.

So any elections that the democrats lose can now be blamed on the Russians and republicans, what's the democrat narrative if they win?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This isn't the tampering we should be worried about. It's the electronic voting machines that cannot be recounted or checked for internal program tampering. And now the republicans have eliminated what little oversight there was, so it's free reign for anyone wanting to rig the machines. And there's basically no way to catch them or correct the vote counts their rigged machines come up with.
Riggght... It's all Republicans fault isn't it? Lol

I think it has more to do with Democrats allowing voter registration on driver's license which, as far as I know, already give to illegals. How convenient!!

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
But they shouldn't have a say if they're not contributing via taxes.
It's like if you and your buddies are hanging out and want to order pizza, so you all chip in to cover the price. Then your neighbor shows up and invites himself in. He says he hadn't had lunch, so you feel kinda bad for him and figure you'll let him have a slice, but then while your friends are discussing what toppings to order the neighbor joins the conversation and tries to insist on mushrooms even though he hadn't contributed to paying for the pizza.

The general assumption is that they are paying, at least local taxes. They can't vote in federal elections. Nothing really preventing them from voting in local elections.

Eh... sorry, didn't read the article. But, it such a small blurb, not a lot of detail. A mistake maybe the government trying to automatically register folks.
 
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PureX

Veteran Member
It is a moral view of the left I believe. If one is living as part of a community, they should share equally all privileges within that community..
No one believes this. No one.

First of all, no one believes that anyone should have an equal share of anything that they did not apply equal effort into generating. And secondly, if one is "living as part of a community" they are participating in that communities culture, economy, and infrastructure. And therefor ought to have some say in how those things are governed. If they became a part of that community illegally, then this should be rectified. If they have became an asset to the community then they ought to be given the opportunity to join it legally. If they have not, then they ought to be banished. And no one disagrees with any of this.
 
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PureX

Veteran Member
So any elections that the democrats lose can now be blamed on the Russians and republicans, what's the democrat narrative if they win?
This comment is a glaring example of how the republicans have been getting away with destroying electoral oversight, rigging the voter registration rules and roles, and gerrymandering districts to cheat the elective process to get themselves into public office. All their supporters care about is beating those horrible democrats by any means necessary.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Riggght... It's all Republicans fault isn't it? Lol
It's amazing to me that THIS is all you see, here. Not that our whole democratic system is being left completely vulnerable, both from within and from without; nope. All you see is "your team" being blamed for it. And all you can think about is negating that blame.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I'll await your proof of this statement. Otherwise, no reason to take it seriously.
Sure, because THIS is really the important part! If you can dismiss THIS, then you can dismiss the actual substance of the post without having to justify it, or even consider it.
 
Noncitizens find it easy to register to vote, cast ballots

I wonder if tampering from within is far worse than tampering from without.

What I really found interesting was this detail omitted from this report "
The woman’s voter log shows that she signed up as a Democrat in July 2012. In 2016, her registration was canceled after she informed election authorities that she wasn't eligible to vote because she wasn't yet a U.S. citizen."

She later registered as a Republican. why Democrat?

Has it been going on for a long time and now the boldness to violate laws is becoming evident?

Non-citizens legally register to vote in San Francisco school elections

Thoughts?

I think more important is how Russia and China are tempting “Useful Idiots” Lenin said it. The new Facebook revelation is showing that things like eliminating ICE and other racial tension activities were started and organized by aggitators from foreign countries like Russia and China.
This reminds me of an old Star Trek episode where a foreign energy entity that fed on hateful words and fighting. The entity would put bad thoughts into the crew’s minds. The outcome was contension, arguments, physical fighting and what Aulinsky directed in his book Rules for Radicals. Divide and conquer. The Klingons were also on board and this caused fighting them as well.
The answer Kirk figured out was to consciously fight the will to hate. They began to laugh and get along with each other. They demanded the entity leave because they did not want to be controlled as useful idiots any more. Perhaps we need to temper hatred toward each other. Liberals need to stop their Trump hatred. We need to just get along :)
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Sure, because THIS is really the important part! If you can dismiss THIS, then you can dismiss the actual substance of the post without having to justify it, or even consider it.

No, it was just weird that you said no one believes this and then went on to say almost exactly what I said.

So, why should I go about attacking something we seemed to agree on?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
And The Washington Times denies climate change, said that Obama was born in Kenya, etc.

IOW, beware.

Even if the article is completely true, it's one individual who was mistakenly registered to vote. Not a lot there to build an argument on, IMO.
 
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