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Election Tamperings?

tytlyf

Not Religious
Oh, that attitude really inspires me to converse with you.
I just think you made it up, that's all. Being that you're a fervent supporter of Voter ID and a staff member at an election site said you don't need it, that's not good.

Did you report the staffer at the election site? We need people to stand up and say something if they see something.

How many other Trump supporters did this staffer allow in without ID?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
In the past, the democrats have been guilty of both gerrymandering and voter suppression. But the past is not relevant because it does not effect us, now, and because we can't do anything about it. Now it's the republicans doing it, and they have also just voted to removed what little oversight we had over the electronic voting machines. Why do YOU think they did this? Do you think they did this because they feared the democrats were rigging the machines? Or because they were intent on rigging them themselves? Why would they remove that oversight if they thought the democrats were doing it? And why when they are constantly squawking about voter ID fraud (that by nearly all accounts is extremely rare). Once those electronic voting machines have been rigged, and the oversight has been eliminated, there will be no way to detect the cheating, or to recount the votes even if it's detected.
So, were the Dems asleep at the switch or what?
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Now it's the republicans doing it, and they have also just voted to removed what little oversight we had over the electronic voting machines. .
Can you believe that? Right after the inauguration too. Republicans also just killed a bill that would have funded additional election security moving forward.

Crooked.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
So, were the Dems asleep at the switch or what?
They were not "radicalized" by having to cheat, and cater to an ignorant, extremist base, to win elections. So I suppose they were somewhat "asleep at the switch". And now they are outnumbered to the point of being hamstrung.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Can you believe that? Right after the inauguration too. Republicans also just killed a bill that would have funded additional election security moving forward.

Crooked.
And they don't even have to feign shame, or hide their cheating, because their "base" approves of their doing whatever it takes to beat the "enemy" party. Just like they approve of their stacking the courts with obviously biased judges, and they approve of their sabotaging the justice department to render it incapable of stopping them. This "base" of theirs wants them to destroy the entire government, if necessary, to get their own way, and the rest of the American people be damned. They are "radicalized" to the point of being traitorous saboteurs, thanks to a very greedy, hyperbolic, RW media onslaught and a republican party that doesn't care what it does to get itself elected to office.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
And they don't even have to feign shame, or hide their cheating, because their "base" approves of their doing whatever it takes to beat the "enemy" party. Just like they approve of their stacking the courts with obviously biased judges, and they approve of their sabotaging the justice department to render it incapable of stopping them. This "base" of theirs wants them to destroy the entire government, if necessary, to get their own way, and the rest of the American people be damned. They are "radicalized" to the point of being traitorous saboteurs, thanks to a very greedy, hyperbolic, RW media onslaught and a republican party that doesn't care what it does to get itself elected to office.
So, Democrats incompetence at winning elections in recent years, aside from Presidential elections, is nothing, eh? It's all about the evil Republicans. Got it. Good to know.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
So, Democrats incompetence at winning elections in recent years, aside from Presidential elections, is nothing, eh? It's all about the evil Republicans. Got it. Good to know.
Why are you trying so hard to find (imagine) some fault elsewhere? Could it be so that you can then dismiss the charges based on irrelevant information rather than face them based on their content?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Why are you trying so hard to find (imagine) some fault elsewhere? Could it be so that you can then dismiss the charges based on irrelevant information rather than face them based on their content?
I felt your post, to which I responded, voided it's own credibility with the line, "their stacking the courts with obviously biased judges". That is such a bias BS statement as to be barely worthy of a response. The reason is, the Dems would "stack" the court, if given the opportunity, with "progressive" judges - at the drop of a hat. My perception tells me the rest of your perspective is similarly jaundiced.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I felt your post, to which I responded, voided it's own credibility with the line, "their stacking the courts with obviously biased judges". That is such a bias BS statement as to be barely worthy of a response. The reason is, the Dems would "stack" the court, if given the opportunity, with "progressive" judges - at the drop of a hat. My perception tells me the rest of your perspective is similarly jaundiced.
So, basically, your response is "Nut-huh, YOU did!"
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
So, basically, your response is "Nut-huh, YOU did!"
No, my dear, @PureX I am saying your are heavily biased in your own assertions that make a meaningful discussion relatively difficult. Do you not think your own comment about stacking the courts is a teensy bit over the top? Seriously? If the Democrats could figure out how to win elections they would be doing much the same things.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
No, my dear, I am saying your are heavily biased in your own assertions that make a meaningful discussion relatively difficult.
That, of course, would have nothing to do with the accuracy of the assertions, even if it were true. And by your own admission, it's true that the republicans want to stack the courts (whether or not the democrats want to). And all we have to do is watch the news to know the other assertions are true. So what you're really trying to do is establish an excuse to ignore the accusations all together by switching the blame and accusing the accuser. As any petulant child will do when they get caught out and have no reasonable defense.
Do you not think your own comment about stacking the courts is a teensy bit over the top? Seriously? If the Democrats could figure out how to win elections they would be doing much the same things.
Well, winning against liars, cheaters, and a supporting media and base that will approve any tactic to gain the win isn't that easy. Especially when the "winners" are gutting electoral oversight, rigging elections, and stacking courts with biased judges.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That, of course, would have nothing to do with the accuracy of the assertions, even if it were true. And by your own admission, it's true that the republicans want to stack the courts (whether or not the democrats want to). And all we have to do is watch the news to know the other assertions are true. So what you're really trying to do is establish an excuse to ignore the accusations all together by switching the blame and accusing the accuser. As any petulant child will do when they get caught out and have no reasonable defense.
Well, winning against liars, cheaters, and a supporting media and base that will approve any tactic to gain the win isn't that easy. Especially when the "winners" are gutting electoral oversight, rigging elections, and stacking courts with biased judges.
A prime example of the pot calling the kettle black.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
That, of course, would have nothing to do with the accuracy of the assertions, even if it were true. And by your own admission, it's true that the republicans want to stack the courts (whether or not the democrats want to). And all we have to do is watch the news to know the other assertions are true. So what you're really trying to do is establish an excuse to ignore the accusations all together by switching the blame and accusing the accuser. As any petulant child will do when they get caught out and have no reasonable defense.
Well, winning against liars, cheaters, and a supporting media and base that will approve any tactic to gain the win isn't that easy. Especially when the "winners" are gutting electoral oversight, rigging elections, and stacking courts with biased judges.
And yet, none of what you mention has been cited by Hillary for her mind-numbingly spectacular loss in the last election cycle. Odd, eh?

16 things Hillary Clinton blames for her election loss

Any reasonable person would think your reasons would be at the top of her list... or at least got an honorable mention.
 
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