Election Tamperings?

[Nakosis]

I think more important is how Russia and China are tempting “Useful Idiots” Lenin said it. The new Facebook revelation is showing that things like eliminating ICE and other racial tension activities were started and organized by aggitators from foreign countries like Russia and China.
This reminds me of an old Star Trek episode where a foreign energy entity that fed on hateful words and fighting. The entity would put bad thoughts into the crew’s minds. The outcome was contension, arguments, physical fighting and what Aulinsky directed in his book Rules for Radicals. Divide and conquer. The Klingons were also on board and this caused fighting them as well.
The answer Kirk figured out was to consciously fight the will to hate. They began to laugh and get along with each other. They demanded the entity leave because they did not want to be controlled as useful idiots any more. Perhaps we need to temper hatred toward each other. Liberals need to stop their Trump hatred. We need to just get along

Yes, those are our useful idiots. We're the only ones that should be manipulating them.

 

[PureX]

Even if the article is completely true, it's one individual who was mistakenly registered to vote. Not a lot there to build an argument on, IMO.

Very good point. But nevertheless, that one bit of useless information was sufficient enough to get it linked to and discussed on here. And likely on other sites too. This is why this nonsense is being reported. Not because it's news, but because it stirs up the ire and indignation of those who read it, and that increases media circulation (even if it poisons us as a nation).

 

[stvdv]

This whole "election tampering" is just to make Russia look bad

And it's a "pitifull way" also. I don't see Putin play such a "weak hand"

And all they do is playing what Putin does best "divide and control"

 

[Shad]

Thoughts?

Dem bastion, the petition could be seen as "progressive" thus Dem and a corrupt clerk

Voting laws are a joke in the US. Voting ID is required here with one exception which is a citizen vouching for another. Said voucher needs ID and it is legally binding ie if the vote was illegal the voucher is punished as well.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's amazing to me that THIS is all you see, here. Not that our whole democratic system is being left completely vulnerable, both from within and from without; nope. All you see is "your team" being blamed for it. And all you can think about is negating that blame.

Seems you blame Republicans quite a bit with Democrats share of the blame notably lacking in your posts. Telling.

 

[tytlyf]

I'll await your proof of this statement. Otherwise, no reason to take it seriously.

Why noncitizens should be given the right to vote
https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/arti...hould-be-given-the-right-to-vote-11732459.php

If you read the article you would find that noncitizens voting in elections is common place throughout American history. Is it illegal for a noncitizen to vote?

As to the OP, the Russian national registered in 2017 as a republican. In 2014, she didn't register to vote. Her name was registered by someone else.

 

[Cougarbear]

Yes, those are our useful idiots. We're the only ones that should be manipulating them.

I think what we try to do is educate them. We don't jump up and down shouting at them. We don't follow them around and their families around yelling at them as they try to eat. We don't have Anti-Fa trying to riot and cause injury to people in a coordinated way. We want to debate and discuss. How many times have you tried to in here just to be called a racist?
By the way, I also am from Ventura.

 

[Cougarbear]

This whole "election tampering" is just to make Russia look bad

And it's a "pitifull way" also. I don't see Putin play such a "weak hand"

And all they do is playing what Putin does best "divide and control"

Actually, Russia has been doing this deception thing trying to cause contention in the U.S. since Stalin.

 

[tytlyf]

Actually, Russia has been doing this deception thing trying to cause contention in the U.S. since Stalin.

Correct. Unfortunately we have a presidential campaign working with the Russians to undermine the election. It's a big deal. Conspiracy against the United States is serious. Did Trump know about it? Aiding and abetting? Did Trump give the OK on anything? If he knew about it, that's a crime.

 

[stvdv]

Actually, Russia has been doing this deception thing trying to cause contention in the U.S. since Stalin.

What I meant is "America meowing that Russia is meddling in the elections", this Putin would not do
Of course meddling in the elections Putin might do [if he is smart], that's all part of the game
USA is the biggest meddler itself, we all know that to be true. 4000+ lying tweets of Trump

 

[stvdv]

Actually, Russia has been doing this deception thing trying to cause contention in the U.S. since Stalin.

Talking about meddling the world: Ever considered the scenario that Trump created 4000+ lying-tweets in ca. 500 days
Trump tweets 8 lies a day. Reality check:
Hypothetical: 05% of his tweets are lies, that means 160 tweets a day. USA pays a lot for a president who only tweets and plays golf
Hypothetical: 50% of his tweets are lies, that means 016 tweets a day. USA pays a lot for a president who mostly lies and plays golf

 

[Kenny]

She says she didn’t register to vote at all. I believe there are cases of people being paid to register voters (on behalf of various parties) and that’s been one source of people being registered without their knowledge. That would explain the votes never actually being used in this case. I’ve not seen significant effort from any political direction to end this obviously flawed process.

Correct. It says she was registered as a Democrat without having filled out any requests and was removed after she reported that she wasn't a citizen.

The question would be "Who registered her"?

 

[Kenny]

It is a moral view of the left I believe. If one is living as part of a community, they should share equally all privileges within that community.

Nationalism is evil.

na·tion·al·ism
ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm
noun
noun: nationalism
patriotic feeling, principles, or efforts.
synonyms: patriotism, patriotic sentiment, flag-waving, xenophobia, chauvinism, jingoism
"their extreme nationalism was frightening"

I certainly don't agree with the synonyms.

 

[Revoltingest]

Dem bastion, the petition could be seen as "progressive" thus Dem and a corrupt clerk

Voting laws are a joke in the US. Voting ID is required here with one exception which is a citizen vouching for another. Said voucher needs ID and it is legally binding ie if the vote was illegal the voucher is punished as well.

The last time I voted at a polling station, they wanted to see my ID.
I asked if this was required. They said it was, but that if I didn't have
one, I could vote anyway.

 

[PureX]

Seems you blame Republicans quite a bit with Democrats share of the blame notably lacking in your posts. Telling.

In the past, the democrats have been guilty of both gerrymandering and voter suppression. But the past is not relevant because it does not effect us, now, and because we can't do anything about it. Now it's the republicans doing it, and they have also just voted to removed what little oversight we had over the electronic voting machines. Why do YOU think they did this? Do you think they did this because they feared the democrats were rigging the machines? Or because they were intent on rigging them themselves? Why would they remove that oversight if they thought the democrats were doing it? And why when they are constantly squawking about voter ID fraud (that by nearly all accounts is extremely rare). Once those electronic voting machines have been rigged, and the oversight has been eliminated, there will be no way to detect the cheating, or to recount the votes even if it's detected.

 

[HonestJoe]

Correct. It says she was registered as a Democrat without having filled out any requests and was removed after she reported that she wasn't a citizen.

I was clarifying because your OP said she registered as a Republican when the article suggests she never registered at all, there were a sequence false registrations in her name, against different parties.

The question would be "Who registered her"?

I covered my suspicion in the post you replied to. It’s been known to happen, has a clear motive and fits the reported sequence of events.

 

[Nakosis]

The last time I voted at a polling station, they wanted to see my ID.
I asked if this was required. They said it was, but that if I didn't have
one, I could vote anyway.

I don't think that word "required" means what they think it means.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't think that word "required" means what they think it means.

A keen observer you are.
I wondered the same thing at the time.

 

[Shad]

The last time I voted at a polling station, they wanted to see my ID.
I asked if this was required. They said it was, but that if I didn't have
one, I could vote anyway.

That is state level.

 

[Revoltingest]

That is state level.

Is it different for federal?
It's all in the same polling station with the same volunteers running it.