End Times?

[TagliatelliMonster]

You know what? I don't care that you disagree with our beliefs. You are just as entitled to your opinion as I am. But for you to deliberately choose emotionally laden put downs like "scientifically illiterate sheep herders" to describe the patriarchs is just meanness. Is that what you want to be known for?

I don't call it a put down, nor do I consider or mean it offensively.

They were scientifically illiterate. Everybody back then was.
Even the most scholarly of the scholars.
People then were also a lot more superstitious. Which is kind of a consequence of not being scientifically literate. Or rather: being less superstitious is a consequence of become more scientifically literate.


It's just a fact of the times.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Yes, and when they do it, it's called abuse.

What do you call it when one is called a sinner who deserves eternal torture?

 

[muhammad_isa]

Completely besides the point.

Why?

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

World War III has likely already happened. The term "World War" was a retroactive term applied after the fact to large-scale global conflicts. Sitting on the edge of one's seat waiting for the announcement "This is it: World War III is here!" is ridiculous.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I don't call it a put down, nor do I consider or mean it offensively.

Oh of course it's offensive. You chose those words precisely because they were a put down, your disingenuity notwithstanding.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

What do you call it when one is called a sinner who deserves eternal torture?

I don't believe that. Take it up with the Chrsitians and Muslims.

 

[muhammad_isa]

The term "World War" was a retroactive term applied after the fact to large-scale global conflicts..

..so what if it is?

Sitting on the edge of one's seat waiting for the announcement "This is it: World War III is here!" is ridiculous.

Most people don't want to see escalation of enmity in the world, but it seems likely to happen.
For a believer, it is SURELY going to happen.
We have details of events, and their approx. order.

 

[muhammad_isa]

I don't believe that. Take it up with the Chrsitians and Muslims.

I don't believe anybody will face any suffering that is not of their own making, in a life hereafter.
I believe that souls are immortal.
Sadly, not all souls will avoid suffering, as is the case in this life as well.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

..so what if it is?

So as I continued to say, isa, sitting on the edge of one's seat "waiting for WWIII" is ridiculous.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I don't believe anybody will face any suffering that is not of their own making, in a life hereafter.
I believe that souls are immortal.
Sadly, not all souls will avoid suffering, as is the case in this life as well.

My beliefs are similar to yours in that I believe a person's afterlife experience will be influenced by how they handled their death and by their character while they were still alive. In other words, a spirit's experience in the afterlife can be either positive or negative. My beliefs, however, are not founded on religious convictions or the Bible but rather on years of first-hand knowledge I've acquired from my experiences as a psychic medium and a paranormal investigator. In fact, I reject what the Bible claims about the afterlife because I've had far too many experiences that contradict its claims. I've shared a few of my experiences in other posts, such as this one here.

As a medium and a spiritualist, I believe that the afterlife, or the spirit world, is an everlasting existence that is not limited by space or time or confined to heaven or hell. In fact, I don't believe that human spirits are trapped for an eternity in either heaven or hell. On the contrary, I believe that spirits (human and non-human alike) can freely move between the spirit world and the physical world by traveling through a spiritual vortex (read more about it here) or through a spirit portal (such as mirrors, windows, and doorways).

I also believe that human spirits can get stuck in the physical world and will need the help and guidance of a medium to cross over into the spirit world. It's my belief that there are spirits who refuse to cross over because they have unfinished business or because a human spirit doesn't realize that they are dead. In the paranormal field, it is commonly believed that when a person dies abruptly (such as from a sudden heart attack), they are unaware that they have died. These spirits are called "earthbound spirits." I don't want to derail the thread, so if you have any specific questions about what I've shared in my post, then you can send me a private message.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Do you think we are approaching End Times?

If so, what makes you think that we are?

And by that I mean the end of the world brought about by God as opposed to by human activity or some kind of natural cataclysm.

God made the sun to have a certain life span and that is not for another billion years.

 

[Sand Dancer]

We are closer to the beginning than we are to the end.

The Universe is composed of 68% dark energy and 27% dark matter. I have a feeling that the way the Universe expands is by degrading dark energy to dark matter. If that is correct, then the Universe is still more than likely going to continue to exist for the 5% of the positive energy in it for at least twice the length of the time that it exists now.

Plus, science, technology, engineering, math, and more could one day add additional dark energy to the Universe, somehow. We might even be able to convert negative to positive or positive to negative energy someday.

In a few billion years, the Sun will expand and overheat the world too. And there's always the possibility of another ice age, a super-virus that kills most people, asteroids wiping out most people or a super-volcano erupting and ending most life on Earth.

Odds are, though, we'll be fine for another night.

I am reading a book about dark energy and dark matter.

 

[muhammad_isa]

My beliefs are similar to yours in that I believe a person's afterlife experience will be influenced by how they handled their death and by their character while they were still alive.
...
I don't want to derail the thread, so if you have any specific questions about what I've shared in my post, then you can send me a private message.

OK .. thanks.

 

[muhammad_isa]

God made the sun to have a certain life span and that is not for another billion years.

What about if we are knocked out of orbit for some reason?
God forbid, by a huge nuclear explosion or collision by another planet or such like?

 

[Sand Dancer]

What about if we are knocked out of orbit for some reason?
God forbid, by a huge nuclear explosion or collision by another planet or such like?

I guess it could happen. Nothing we can do about either scenario though. I am enjoying now.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I believe that the End Times means the end of the Age of Prophecy. The Age of Prophecy 'ended' in the mid-19th century, which marked the beginning of a new age, the Age of Fulfillment of all the Bible prophecies.

I do not believe that there will be an end of the world brought about by God. The correct Bible translations say end of the age, not end of the world. Jesus was to be with us till the end of the Age of Prophecy, until the return of Christ with a new name.

Matthew 28:20
ESV
teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
NIV
and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

You said, "until the return of Christ with a new name." What new name is that?

 

[Trailblazer]

You said, "until the return of Christ with a new name." What new name is that?

The new name is Baha'u'llah.

Luke 21:8 “And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.”

Matthew 24:5 “For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”

When Christ returns, we know for sure He will not be called “Christ” so how would anyone recognize Him?
Baha'u'llah never claimed to be Christ, He claimed to be the return of the Christ Spirit with a new name.

Revelation 2:17 “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.”

Revelation 3:12 “Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.”

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Pretty sure it's Tim.

 

[Heyo]

What about if we are knocked out of orbit for some reason?
God forbid, by a huge nuclear explosion or collision by another planet or such like?

There are not enough nukes on earth to knock us out of orbit. And even a collision will probably not do that. A small impact will change the orbit slightly and a big one would destroy earth.
To de-orbit earth you'd need a Jupiter sized planet passing close by.

 

[stvdv]

Yes and no.

We're in the final yuga... but there's still 426,877 years left in this one. If the timing is literal, and no catastrophes altar how long a day or year is...

Kali yuga ends when the deepest, darkest negativity and other impressions of the mind are ended and purity reigns!

The end of Kali will bring forth the beginning of the Golden Age! When the ego has been annihilated the Golden Age of the inner consciousness will prevail.

So will the world be destroyed?
Will the earth be destroyed?
It is the Ahamkara (ego consciousness) that will be destroyed