Eve more guilty than Adam

[look3467]

Your religion is about Jesus it's not ALL INCLUSIVE. Your religion is exclusive to a belief system about Jesus, Not to the religion of Jesus.

Start demonstrating the religion of Jesus if you can.

Did I not include the whole of humanity in the body of Jesus?

What or who were left out?

If Jesus is all in all, then what is left?

If not, than all is left and Jesus is out.

Start demonstrating the religion of Jesus if you can.

Absolutely in the following verses:
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Be it whom ever you are, whatever you believe, if you believe in God (for whatever name you call Him by) and excercise love for your neighbor, you are living just and right.

if you in heart exercise the second only, you shall have complied with the first as well.

Blessings, AJ

 

[Awoon]

God doesnt require belief in God.

 

[blackout]

Everything is always the woman's fault.

My comment was, I thought, obviously of the tongue in cheek variety.

I have told my, not soon enough to be X, numerous times
that I'm going to make a chart
with all the things he says are my fault on it
(which is pretty much EVERYTHING he considers bad in his life).
And I'll number them,
so he can just call out the numbers
and save us both a lot of time and energy.

Maybe I should make combo meal complaints.

I would write up a chart with things that aren't my fault,
because it would be much easier,

but it would also be blank.

 

[McBell]

The last part of that "because living life accordingly has everything to gain, and nothing to lose" is the side I rather error on.

And as I can attest to, I've gained more than what I've lost.

Have you?

I want nothing to do with any deity that would honour/accept/promote such dishonesty.

 

[look3467]

God doesnt require belief in God.

You are absolutely right!!!!!

Hence, you are your own god! You have that God given right!

But think about it, that right came with a price.

The creation story is about gods having to pay the price for becoming gods. The death penalty.

I call it the designed fault, which is really not a fault but a designed effect.

God did not stop there for He remedied it by re-creation.

Jesus is that recreation of which all of us can participate in, that is.............if we want to.

So there, your choice without penalty, thanks to God.

blessings, AJ

 

[look3467]

I want nothing to do with any deity that would honour/accept/promote such dishonesty.

Well, what can I say? I feel for you?

If you'd be in my shoes, you'd know without a shadow of a doubt the existence of God in your life.

So be it.

Blessings, AJ

 

[Awoon]

You are absolutely right!!!!!

Hence, you are your own god! You have that God given right!

But think about it, that right came with a price.

The creation story is about gods having to pay the price for becoming gods. The death penalty.

I call it the designed fault, which is really not a fault but a designed effect.

God did not stop there for He remedied it by re-creation.

Jesus is that recreation of which all of us can participate in, that is.............if we want to.

So there, your choice without penalty, thanks to God.

blessings, AJ

Your post doesnt make sense.

Why havent you stopped eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

 

[look3467]

My comment was, I thought, obviously of the tongue in cheek variety.

I have told my, not soon enough to be X, numerous times
that I'm going to make a chart
with all the things he says are my fault on it
(which is pretty much EVERYTHING he considers bad in his life).
And I'll number them,
so he can just call out the numbers
and save us both a lot of time and energy.

Maybe I should make combo meal complaints.

I would write up a chart with things that aren't my fault,
because it would be much easier,

but it would also be blank.

My point was that as a man/male, I understand the Eve in me verses the Adam in me.

I understand that whether male or female we are in the Eve's flesh. Eve being the earthen clay vessel.

The clay vessel is earthly and subject to the earths terrors thus making it the weaker of the two.

Notice that Eve was the one enticed and not Adam?

Adam in us is the spirit consciences that dwells in all of us as both male and a female vessels.

If we are to fault something, fault the eve in us. Did not Adam blame Eve?

Gen 3:12 And the man said, The woman (flesh)whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

If Adam recognized the fact that the flesh would do him in, he might decide not to eat.

Of course, a judgment couldn't be made until knowledge of Good and Evil was ingested.

But as for the physical, we are different for the purpose of pro-creation.

Of course, the female is the beautiful one of the two.

Sorry to hear about your not so soon problem. It happens.

Blessings, AJ

 

[look3467]

Your post doesnt make sense.

Why havent you stopped eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

Its very simple.

In the image of God means God like right?

God knows both good and evil, otherwise He couldn't make judgment calls.

Likewise, He wanted sons who could be their own individual entities with His abilities to judge. (Make decisions)

That presented a problem to God in that there can be only but ONE God and not many gods.

That means then that the gods had to be sacrificed if God was to remain the One God. Get it?

Rather then God sacrifice His many sons to death, He purposed to sacrifice only one instead of many.

In the sacrificing of the one, many are thus saved.

Which means that you and I as gods of our own lives, were granted life as a free gift, for rather than us die, Jesus died in our place.

Hence, we were given the right to choose without penalty.

Blessings, AJ

 

[Awoon]

Its very simple.

In the image of God means God like right?

God knows both good and evil, otherwise He couldn't make judgment calls.

Likewise, He wanted sons who could be their own individual entities with His abilities to judge. (Make decisions)

That presented a problem to God in that there can be only but ONE God and not many gods.

That means then that the gods had to be sacrificed if God was to remain the One God. Get it?

Rather then God sacrifice His many sons to death, He purposed to sacrifice only one instead of many.

In the sacrificing of the one, many are thus saved.

Which means that you and I as gods of our own lives, were granted life as a free gift, for rather than us die, Jesus died in our place.

Hence, we were given the right to choose without penalty.

Blessings, AJ

Nonsense:yes:

 

[look3467]

I want nothing to do with any deity that would honour/accept/promote such dishonesty.

"[FONT=verdana, geneva, helvetica]a position are heard and also to ensure that the idea you are arguing against is as sound and strong as possible">>>[/FONT]Austin Cline

Question is: against what standard are the arguments used; as though the standard was the truth and all others false.

All sides present their case, yes, but the judge also has a side, and that is not being neutral side, for one has to lean one way or the other.

Blessings, AJ
http://atheism.about.com/bio/Austin-Cline-5577.htm

 

[Otherright]

Do you think Eve is more guilty than Adam, considering that she was the one to initially sin? It seems to me that this would inherently be the case.

Nope, the transgression was Adam's, not Eve's.

 

[look3467]

Nonsense:yes:

Not surprised:canoe:.


Blessings, AJ

 

[look3467]

Nope, the transgression was Adam's, not Eve's.

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

You mean Eve didn't transgress but Adam?

What if say.... you for instance, when you were born, you became flesh right?

Innocent as Adam or as Eve, but when you begin to grow and begin to learn knowledge, then you started to become as like God, to know good and evil, right?

So it was in the flesh (As Eve) that you begin eating of the fruit of knowledge and as Adam (Your conscience/spirit) became your reasoning power.

So now, who trespassed?

You and I, because we are both a resultant/offspring of the marriage between heaven and earth. A living soul.

Our trespass? becoming our own gods.

Blessings, AJ

 

[Otherright]

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

You mean Eve didn't transgress but Adam?

What if say.... you for instance, when you were born, you became flesh right?

Innocent as Adam or as Eve, but when you begin to grow and begin to learn knowledge, then you started to become as like God, to know good and evil, right?

So it was in the flesh (As Eve) that you begin eating of the fruit of knowledge and as Adam (Your conscience/spirit) became your reasoning power.

So now, who trespassed?

You and I, because we are both a resultant/offspring of the marriage between heaven and earth. A living soul.

Our trespass? becoming our own gods.

Blessings, AJ

I'm just speaking to a common theological concept.

 

[look3467]

I'm just speaking to a common theological concept.

That's fine but, as we grow spiritually to a more mature spiritual stage, you think we shouldn't think like as a child, but as mature individuals?

1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

What really happened in the Garden?

Blessings, AJ

 

[Awoon]

That's fine but, as we grow spiritually to a more mature spiritual stage, you think we shouldn't think like as a child, but as mature individuals?

1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

What really happened in the Garden?

Blessings, AJ

Nothing happened. It's a made up Semitic story.

 

[IsmailaGodHasHeard]

They are both equally guilty.

 

[blackout]

My point was that as a man/male, I understand the Eve in me verses the Adam in me.

I understand that whether male or female we are in the Eve's flesh. Eve being the earthen clay vessel.

The clay vessel is earthly and subject to the earths terrors thus making it the weaker of the two.

Notice that Eve was the one enticed and not Adam?

Adam in us is the spirit consciences that dwells in all of us as both male and a female vessels.

If we are to fault something, fault the eve in us. Did not Adam blame Eve?

Gen 3:12 And the man said, The woman (flesh)whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

If Adam recognized the fact that the flesh would do him in, he might decide not to eat.

Of course, a judgment couldn't be made until knowledge of Good and Evil was ingested.

But as for the physical, we are different for the purpose of pro-creation.

Of course, the female is the beautiful one of the two.

Sorry to hear about your not so soon problem. It happens.

Blessings, AJ

Your metaphorical interpretation fits your world view/belief system.

It's more than a bit of a stretch to me,
but then,
I see things differently than you.
so......

 

[no-body]

All sides present their case, yes, but the judge also has a side, and that is not being neutral side, for one has to lean one way or the other.

Many paths walk the neutral path.

The old lie which breeds hate and fundamentalism: that there is an other.