Even Mainstream Conservatives Now Talk Of Violent Revolution

[Twilight Hue]

You're a gas.

I like that term. I'll give you a credit for the retro qualities it brings.

 

[Jimmy]

Not today anyways.

We have bigger things to worry about like when we run out of oil

 

[F1fan]

Trump is of course the result of Democrats fault for decades pushing people around and telling them what they can and cannot do in thus country and are responsible for open attacks on freedom and liberty.

People are just now surprised that talk of civil war is happening?

Nope. Trump exists as a candidate due to conservative voters and a weak Republican Party. Why he is popular is a curiosity and tragedy. I hope the sickness he brings out in conservatives mitigates after he dies. He offers nothing for the future.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Nope. Trump exists as a candidate due to conservative voters and a weak Republican Party. Why he is popular is a curiosity and tragedy. I hope the sickness he brings out in conservatives mitigates after he dies. He offers nothing for the future.

No. It's because people are sick and tired of Democrats.

 

[F1fan]

No. It's because people are sick and tired of Democrats.

Only conservative people who are puppets of right wing disinformation. Conservatives on this site consistently offer views that are contrary to factual reporting, and where are they getting their views? Not reputable sources.

 

[Stevicus]

No. It's because people are sick and tired of Democrats.

I think it's that a lot of people are sick and tired of both parties. Even in the Republican Party, it seemed people had become less enchanted with McCain, Romney, Bush, etc. The Republican old guard and the Democratic old guard were becoming stale and unimaginative.

There was absolutely no reason that Trump should have ever even gotten to first base among the Republican candidates. At most, he was a celebrity "novelty" candidate - like Jesse Ventura or Arnold Schwarzenegger. Maybe good enough to get a governorship, but the presidency is a higher league. Or at least, it once was. He wasn't expected to win. He shouldn't have won, but it's all spilled milk now.

In 1919, the Chicago White Sox were expected to win big in the World Series against Cincinnati. Cincinnati was supposed to lose, but after being paid off by bigtime gamblers, the poorly-paid and disgruntled White Sox intentionally flubbed and errored their way to defeat.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Trump is of course the result of Democrats fault for decades pushing people around and telling them what they can and cannot do in thus country and are responsible for open attacks on freedom and liberty.

No, Trump is the fault of people who would vote for such a person. Couldn't you find anybody that wasn't a lying, grifting, low-information, sexual predator and now convicted felon? No, he's your fault.

And I'll bet that you have as much freedom as you can use. I did when I lived in the States (and still do). You've just let propagandists convince you that you have no freedom.

And your solution to an imagined freedom problem is to elect people that will limit your freedom. They've already restricted or are trying to eliminate abortion, contraception, IVF, and books.

So does the fact that when the democrats got hold of the wheel, all that they managed to do was hold tight until the republicans got it back, again. So it's been a trade-off between the the bad and the useless while things just keep getting worse.

That's not my experience. Trump inherited a Republican Congress in 2017, and got right to work doing Trumpian things until the Democrats won the House in 2019. In 2021, Biden got a Democratic Congress and did great things for the American people and America's place on the world stage, until the Republicans took back the House in 2023 and a return to gridlock.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

1) I suppose second class really means creating protected classes by which distinct advantages are promoted and creates disadvantages on others using forceful means on others and replacing otherwise more qualified and capable people with those lesser qualified and capable based soley on physical and ethnic characteristics and not ability. Aka affirmative action. That's number one for you.

Your naïveté (I.e. that of almost all conservatives) is galling at best.

2) Pretty simple. It's the redistribution by force to intentionally disable lawful citizens of their 2nd amendment rights under guise it's to prevent unlawful citizens from acquiring firearms. It's a mass attack on the 2nd amendment. So much for two.

Do tell. Just how many good lawful citizens have those darn meany Democrats viciously torn the guns away from in the last 150 years?
Oh yeah!! Zero.
Such a dastardly conspiracy.

No. The reality is that the NRA has continuously bribed politicians (primarily on the right) to suppress even looking into studies of gun related deaths, so that (like the tobacco and fossil fuel industries) they can claim whatever they want about how safe we all are, now that we’re armed to the teeth. But wait! The Dems are coming for your guns! You’d better run out and buy a butt-load more, right away!

3)Llistening to advice and educational scientific proofs is one thing to definitely be encouraged , but to actually attack people so livelihoods and businesses and means of support are systematically destroyed in the process is a good thing? it's not encouraged. Three down.

Nope. Financial downtimes from plagues do hurt everyone; Democrats and Republicans alike. But plagues kill. I (all of humanity) choose life. But tRump and the MAGATs would rather that you die, than decrease their investment values. Switching to modern job training for modern jobs in green energy makes everyone more employable, and almost universally increases wages for middle class and lower income workers. In the face of more and more industries switching to green energy, and less and less jobs in fossil fuels, both in the US and internationally, the childish temper-tantrum demands of Conservatives to refuse to acknowledge the truth, and instead feed their MAGATs a pile of steaming bull**** that coal and gas will rise again, is literally sending their constituents into poverty.

4) Yep it would most certainly be a bad thing but so is pushing people to the point it feels like it's right for retaliation because of unwanted pushing and shoving. People have their limits and a breaking point. Will Democrats respect that and try to diffuse things by backing off? Time will tell. On to the next one.

The fact that telling you the truth is considered “pushing their limits” is very telling about how badly your so-called leaders and media are willfully misleading all of you. We have backed off for far FAR too long. Time has already done and gone kids. Time to wake up. Damage control is the best we can hope for.

5) it's also intolerance to try to fit people into a model that ony suits ones view and not another by trying to force compliance to just one viewpoint. . It's stupid and agree, suicidal to think that it can equally work. On to six.

See above. Yep. On to number six. You’re 0 for 5 so far.

6) Actually it’s not fossil that's outdated. It's superior. Keep forcing subordinate technology on people , control means of production, and watch what happens. You ought to know the saying about a better mousetrap and people beating a path to one's door. Hell, I'll drop fossil in a heartbeat if something is actually better. (And cheaper. ) until then ta ta to seven.

As I posted in another thread you commented in just a day or two ago regarding this….
Renewable energy is now a cost-effective and not just ‘viable‘, but “better than“ option, above and beyond fossil fuels.

Renewable energy – powering a safer future | United Nations.

https://www.cell.com/joule/fulltext/S2542-4351(22)00410-X

7) And now the truth of a person's opinion on others truth be told. Transparencies are good though.

Transparency is good (I’ll give a half point on that). But you should be checking the transparencies of both sides. You’ll find many more dark curtains behind the right-wing media and political motivations and sources than you will from the “left”/centrists.
Yes. I check both sides regularly.

~Well there are your counterpoints on the taste of ones own medicine. Ciao. Off to the Copacabana!

So, final score, you presented 0.5 out of 7 possible cogent responses.
Have fun, but don’t bring a firearm! Your odds of getting shot rise dramatically if you bring one.

 

[danieldemol]

Here is the OP's link so that you can click on it;

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thehill.com

 

[Valjean]

Trump is of course the result of Democrats fault for decades pushing people around and telling them what they can and cannot do in thus country and are responsible for open attacks on freedom and liberty.

People are just now surprised that talk of civil war is happening?

No, it's the Republicans who are the right wing authoritarian party. They're the ones most prone to control, censorship, repression and violence. The Democrats have moved to the right also, unfortunately, but they're still more democratic and motivated by public service than the Republicans.

 

[Twilight Hue]

No, it's the Republicans who are the right wing authoritarian party. They're the ones most prone to control, censorship, repression and violence. The Democrats have moved to the right also, unfortunately, but they're still more democratic and motivated by public service than the Republicans.

Not when it's a fact Democrats run the least free and most oppressive states in the entire nation.

https://www.freedominthe50states.org/

 

[PureX]

Not when it's a fact Democrats run the least free and most oppressive states in the entire nation.

https://www.freedominthe50states.org/

That's not a fact at all. You listen to a media that can't differentiate between freedom and blind, stupid, selfishness. Because it's owned and controlled by blind, stupid, selfish rich people.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That's not a fact at all. You listen to a media that can't differentiate between freedom and blind, stupid, selfishness. Because it's owned and controlled by blind, stupid, selfish rich people.

No , they actually list the reasons why as well as other sites for that matter.

Just because you disagree does not make it false or unrealistic in any way as these states in fact the most oppressive and least free states in the entire nation.

 

[Valjean]

Conservative media like Fox is much more responsible for the hatred, paranoia and anger.
And most of the stuff they talk about isn't even true.
Decades and decades of panic mongering language takes its toll

Yes, the Republicans killed the Fairness Act and eviscerated the the Telecommunications Act. Anyone can own as many and varied media outlets as they want, with no restrictions on content. Now almost everything is owned by a handful of large corporations legally pushing one sided, right-wing propaganda 24/7.

This is the "freedom" and "free trade" the Right has been pushing ever since the Powell Memo back in '71.

 

[PureX]

No , they actually list the reasons why as well as other sites for that matter.

Just because you disagree does not make it false or unrealistic in any way as these states in fact the most oppressive and least free states in the entire nation.

Right, you can't play with machine guns, you can't drive drunk, you can't marry your 12 year old cousin, you can't beat up gay or black people, what a horrible assault on your "freedoms"!

 

[Valjean]

Not when it's a fact Democrats run the least free and most oppressive states in the entire nation.

https://www.freedominthe50states.org/

Yes, free of social services, and workplace, environmental, health, safety, banking, corporate, and insurance regulation and safeguards. This is the "oppression" the Right opposes.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

That hasn't stopped lefty from encouraging things to go further south. They absoultly love stuff like promoting and enticing revolts and revolution as long as I can remember.

Um, just out of curiousity -- which contestant in this current race is ranting on and on about using the DOJ to punish their political foes....let me see, just a sec,


Oh, yeah. Donald Trump!

We had hearings on January 6, but that's only because we had a TELEVISED January 6 -- that consitutes a little thing called "evidence," which a Republican Congress is trying to find against Biden. Strangely, without any luck.

Take the blinkers off -- they impair your view.

 

[Yerda]

Yes, free of social services, and workplace, environmental, health, safety, banking, corporate, and insurance regulation and safeguards. This is the oppression the Right opposes.

Preventing the bosses from killing workers, defrauding the public, polluting the water supply, or controlling people's medical insurance is tyranny.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Um, just out of curiousity -- which contestant in this current race is ranting on and on about using the DOJ to punish their political foes....let me see, just a sec,


Oh, yeah. Donald Trump!

We had hearings on January 6, but that's only because we had a TELEVISED January 6 -- that consitutes a little thing called "evidence," which a Republican Congress is trying to find against Biden. Strangely, without any luck.

Take the blinkers off -- they impair your view.

Hardly. Maybe start by recognizing the chaos by the left causes would help. But I suspect you are incapable of that due to the horse blinders that only give you a narrow view and not the whole picture.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Right, you can't play with machine guns, you can't drive drunk, you can't marry your 12 year old cousin, you can't beat up gay or black people, what a horrible assault on your "freedoms"!

You sure enjoy making up strawman in your cornfield.