Evidence means nothing with certain things

[Twilight Hue]

When ya been around and know a few things you’ll see that the things you think you know because of science require a belief as well. Just cuz science says it’s so doesn’t make it true. I’m not that naïve

If you know what is true, you don't require a belief for it.

Science dosent have, nor require belief. It has theory, meaning the subject is there conclusively, established, but isn't fully understood yet and openly adjusts with new information, unlike a belief where a conclusion is already made without any supporting information and evidences whatsoever.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Lol You’re forgetting one key factor. spiritual people don’t need evidence

Actually, that's not true of all spiritual people.

For example, I don't entirely believe in the existence of gods because I haven't seen any evidence that fully convinces me of their existence. Despite this, I'm not willing to rule out their existence because of what I understand about the supernatural and the afterlife. Therefore, I'm an agnostic, not an atheist.

 

[Jimmy]

Did I say that you are a coward? I said most. Are you willing to learn? Can you be honest? If so then you are not a coward. But I have as yet to meet an honest and informed creationist. They simply do not exist. You might not be a coward. You have not been tested in that fashion. But if one wants to debate a topic they take on the moral responsibility to learn what they are talking about. Otherwise one is like to pass on lies by mistake.

Didn’t you say somewhere that most creationists accept evolution, Big Bang etc? Personally i don’t think those things even took place.

 

[Jimmy]

I am not forgetting that. And why would you insult "spiritual people" in such a fashion. Your statement is very close to calling spiritual people ignorant and dishonest. Every one can use evidence. It is a tool to help one to understand the world. One cannot understand the world without evidence.

What? They don’t need evidence of God. Atleast none that would satisfy u

 

[Jimmy]

Y

If you know what is true, you don't require a belief for it.

Science dosent have, nor require belief. It has theory, meaning the subject is there conclusively, established, but isn't fully understood yet and openly adjusts with new information, unlike a belief where a conclusion is already made without any supporting information and evidences whatsoever.

Unfortunately you have a limited understanding of life

 

[Jimmy]

Actually, that's not true of all spiritual people.

For example, I don't entirely believe in the existence of gods because I haven't seen any evidence that fully convinces me of their existence. Despite this, I'm not willing to rule out their existence because of what I understand about the supernatural and the afterlife. Therefore, I'm an agnostic, not an atheist.

Haha yeah I figured anyone with a brain would’ve knew I meant not all

 

[Twilight Hue]

Y

Unfortunately you have a limited understanding of life

All of us has a limited understanding of life.

Death comes to us all.

 

[Jimmy]

And who are you to accuse him of that? I think that is very presumptuous of you. You wouldn't know him if you bumped into him on a street.

I think people who put all there knowing into science have limited their scope. No biggy

 

[Jimmy]

All of us has a limited understanding of life.

Death comes to us all.

You’re entitled to put all your knowledge in science. I just think that’s a limiting viewpoint. You don’t. it’s all good

 

[Jimmy]

And who are you to accuse him of that? I think that is very presumptuous of you. You wouldn't know him if you bumped into him on a street.

Who am I? What? I’m not entitled to have an opinion? Oh I see I should of said imo you have a limited view. Lol. I thought imo was implied.haha gimme a break. I used the word unfortunately. Don’t I get credit for that? Oh I guess I should’ve said that I think people with his form of view have a limited opinion of life and I guess that would’ve made it more appropriate.lol

 

[Nakosis]

Yes but that doesn’t make it true

However, you claimed it was blind belief which isn't true if there exists evidence to support a reasonable argument.

Also these theories are not blindly accepted as scientists continue to question them, look for falsifying evidence and try to support alternate theories.

Blind belief doesn't mean what you think it means.

 

[Jimmy]

And who are you to accuse him of that? I think that is very presumptuous of you. You wouldn't know him if you bumped into him on a street.

A limited arsenal to understand life. Oh well I’m not perfect.

 

[Jimmy]

However, you claimed it was blind belief which isn't true if there exists evidence to support a reasonable argument.

Also these theories are not blindly accepted as scientists continue to question them, look for falsifying evidence and try to support alternate theories.

Blind belief doesn't mean what you think it means.

Eh. Science views limit one’s understanding of the mysteries of life.

 

[Nakosis]

Eh. Science views limit one’s understanding of the mysteries of life.

No, you can still believe whatever you what. Science just helps you to test the truth of what you believe.

If you don't care whether what you believe is true or not then certainly you'd have no use for it.

 

[Jimmy]

However, you claimed it was blind belief which isn't true if there exists evidence to support a reasonable argument.

Also these theories are not blindly accepted as scientists continue to question them, look for falsifying evidence and try to support alternate theories.

Blind belief doesn't mean what you think it means.

Eh science types believe Big Bang and evolution actually took place. Don’t tell me they don’t haha. Their view of life has been stifled

 

[Jimmy]

No, you can still believe whatever you what. Science just helps you to test the truth of what you believe.

If you don't care whether what you believe is true or not then certainly you'd have no use for it.

All the people that love science here have no gods. Or believe anything magical. So what’s ur point?

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

A limited arsenal to understand life. Oh well I’m not perfect.

I deleted the post because I think what I said to you was too harsh, and I apologize for that.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You’re entitled to put all your knowledge in science. I just think that’s a limiting viewpoint. You don’t. it’s all good

Its because I prefer the truth of the matter while I'm alive in this lifetime.

Fantasy is fine if one wants it, but there is not much practical value to be said for it as you can't empirically advance and benefit from mental constructs that firmly remain locked in one's imagination and impossible to demonstrate.

 

[Jimmy]

I deleted the post because I think what I said to you was too harsh, and I apologize for that.

Eh I was a bit off too

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Eh I was a bit off too

I was wrong to respond to you so harshly, and I won't hold it against you for responding to me in kind. Again, I'm sorry.