Evidence means nothing with certain things

[Jimmy]

Its because I prefer the truth of the matter while I'm alive in this lifetime.

Fantasy is fine if one wants it, but there is not much practical value to be said for it as you can't empirically advance and benefit from mental constructs that firmly remain locked in one's imagination and impossible to demonstrate.

OH! I prefer the truth of the matter while I’m alive in this lifetime as well. Oh boy do I! I have to say that I got a sneaky suspicion that my truths are correct though. No science needed. Haha

 

[Nakosis]

All the people that love science here have no gods. Or believe anything magical. So what’s ur point?

That there is a difference between blind belief and scientific belief.

 

[Jimmy]

That there is a difference between blind belief and scientific belief.

People blindly believe science

 

[Jimmy]

That there is a difference between blind belief and scientific belief.

Ok this conversation is starting to get weeeeeird

 

[Twilight Hue]

OH! I prefer the truth of the matter while I’m alive in this lifetime as well. Oh boy do I! I have to say that I got a sneaky suspicion that my truths are correct though. No science needed. Haha

No. Just the periodic table of the elements is sufficient enough as we are just a conglomerate of atoms and molecules, and the odds of life established already at a solid 1:?.

No god, no spirits, or any such fantasy required to understand if the odds are solid at one, it's a guarantee its going to occur at some undetermined point, as some undetermined form of life, at some undetermined place.

But that is for the next form to worry about.

When "I" am gone, "I'm" gone for good with all knowledge and beliefs with it.

Can't take it with you unfortunately. Real or imagined.

 

[Nakosis]

People blindly believe science

Some may but they shouldn't and they don't need to. They can examine the evidence for themselves and try to disprove whatever the theory is.

 

[Jimmy]

No. Just the periodic table of the elements is sufficient enough as we are just a conglomerate of atoms and molecules, and the odds of life established already at a solid 1:?.

No god, no spirits, or any such fantasy required to understand if the odds are solid at one, it's a guarantee its going to occur at some undetermined point, as some undetermined form of life, at some undetermined place.

But that is for the next form to worry about.

When "I" am gone, "I'm" gone for good with all knowledge and beliefs with it.

Can't take it with you unfortunately. Real or imagined.

No. Just the periodic table of the elements is sufficient enough as we are just a conglomerate of atoms and molecules, and the odds of life established already at a solid 1:?.

No god, no spirits, or any such fantasy required to understand if the odds are solid at one, it's a guarantee its going to occur at some undetermined point, as some undetermined form of life, at some undetermined place.

But that is for the next form to worry about.

When "I" am gone, "I'm" gone for good with all knowledge and beliefs with it.

Can't take it with you unfortunately. Real or imagined.

I don’t even need that. Life’s mysteries are only found within. If you’re not interested in them that’s cool.

 

[Jimmy]

Some may but they shouldn't and they don't need to. They can examine the evidence for themselves and try to disprove whatever the theory is.

Ok

 

[Jimmy]

Some may but they shouldn't and they don't need to. They can examine the evidence for themselves and try to disprove whatever the theory is.

Yeah there are a lot of quack theories out there.

 

[Nakosis]

Ok this conversation is starting to get weeeeeird

Well you can believe whatever makes you happy. Especially if your not going to offer anything to support it so no one could disprove it.

 

[Jimmy]

Well you can believe whatever makes you happy. Especially if your not going to offer anything to support it so no one could disprove it.

This conversation has drifted into coo coo ville.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Didn’t you say somewhere that most creationists accept evolution, Big Bang etc? Personally i don’t think those things even took place.

No, I never said that. I said that most Christians accept that. Do not conflate evolution with atheism. Most Christians, unlike you, do not believe that their God is a liar.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What? They don’t need evidence of God. Atleast none that would satisfy u

Yes, faith in God is ultimately irrational. But as I said, some do not believe that God is a liar. They still rely on evidence.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I don’t even need that. Life’s mysteries are only found within. If you’re not interested in them that’s cool.

Oh I'm interested in it. I absolutely love the mental realm where gods, angels, and people and the like come alive in ways that are just as real, independently alive, and interactive as life outside the fantastical is.

I just recognize that the mental dreaming realm stays in the mental dream realm , and the physical waking realm is exclusively void of what one's fantasy and subconscious can conjure up even if the personal experience is identical in dream states and the waking state.

I know not to confuse the experience where I think fantasy is reality or reality is fantasy when experiencing one or the other.

 

[Jimmy]

No, I never said that. I said that most Christians accept that. Do not conflate evolution with atheism. Most Christians, unlike you, do not believe that their God is a liar.

No, I never said that. I said that most Christians accept that. Do not conflate evolution with atheism. Most Christians, unlike you, do not believe that their God is a liar.

Creationist Christians it’s all the same. Of course they’re gonna say they believe that they don’t wanna look coo coo. My gods a liar haha

 

[Nakosis]

Yeah there are a lot of quack theories out there.

Science comes in handy to disprove them. Science actually seems better at disproving things than proving them.

I suspect the "Big Bang" theory will disproven at some point. However, until then, people find it reasonable to accept it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Creationist Christians it’s all the same. Of course they’re gonna say they believe that they don’t wanna look coo coo. My gods a liar haha

No. You should not insult your fellow Christians in such a manner.

But yes, you do believe that your God is a liar. Due to your lack of education you cannot understand how you do that.

If God cannot lie then Genesis is not historical. It still works as allegory. But it is not a history of the Earth unless, and since the Christian God is all powerful, unless God is a liar. Then Genesis could be literal.

 

[Jimmy]

Oh I'm interested in it. I absolutely love the mental realm where gods, angels, and people and the like come alive in ways that are just as real, independently alive, and interactive as life outside the fantastical is.

I just recognize that the mental dreaming realm stays in the mental dream realm , and the physical waking realm is exclusively void of what one's fantasy and subconscious can conjure up even if the personal experience is identical in dream states and the waking state.

I know not to confuse the experience where I think fantasy is reality or reality is fantasy when experiencing one or the other.

Fantasies are fun

 

[Twilight Hue]

Fantasies are fun

They are indeed.

 

[Kfox]

A lot of people on here like to point out that spiritual people on here don’t have any evidence. But let me remind you that all the scientific things you believe because of evidence, your blindly believing this as well. (ie. Big Bang, Abiogenesis & evolution). Looks like we’re all in the same boat. Hahahaha.

The difference is, Science has a long history of admitting when proven wrong, discarding previous held beliefs and coming up with a new theory in light of the new information. I challenge you to provide a religion that is willing to admit when they are wrong.
I believe it was Mark Twain who said; "Trust the man who seeks the truth, question the man who knows the truth". An ability to admit when proven wrong is an indication of a man who seeks the truth.