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Evidence of NOAH's FLOOD

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
The answer from scientists is No as repeatedly cited. The water tied up in the interior of the earth has never been available for a sudden world flood described.
I think you better read up on more current views about the earth first being covered in water before the continents appeared. Have a good one! :)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I am pretty sure there were more than a few branches floating, lots of vegetation floating around, and the water began receding from the tops of mountains. You weren't there and neither was I, but I can consider that branches could have been implanted near the tops of mountains especially as the waters were receding. Meantime, do you continue insisting that lava doesn't carry sediment as it flows from a volcano?
It does not matter. Saltwater will kill trees.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
@shunyadragon Plus watching a documentary about the Mars exploration, scientists are saying that water was certainly on Mars before it became dry. And the posit is that is how 'life' started on the earth...hmmm, isn't that interesting?
 

McBell

Unbound
@shunyadragon Hello. Here is something you may like to look at: (or maybe you won't like, but it's worth a try...)
Please explain how the Earth being mostly a water covered planet with little land 3.24 MILLION years ago is evidence for a world wide flood 5-6 thousand years ago...
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Please explain how the Earth being mostly a water covered planet with little land 3.24 MILLION years ago is evidence for a world wide flood 5-6 thousand years ago...
Actually my posts are not particularly centered around the flood of Noah's time now as recorded in Genesis, but I am looking up certain contentions some make as if there could not be water covering the earth. The earth (1) had been apparently--according to scientists--been covered with water ENTIRELY before land appeared, and (2) branches from trees could have floated in water from a flood, and take root in soil thereafter. (P.S. Scientists are saying that Mars once had lots of water...but now it is, of course, completely barren. They're looking into the geologic processes causing this.)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Actually my posts are not particularly centered around the flood of Noah's time now as recorded in Genesis, but I am looking up certain contentions some make as if there could not be water covering the earth. The earth (1) had been apparently--according to scientists--been covered with water ENTIRELY before land appeared, and (2) branches from trees could have floated in water from a flood, and take root in soil thereafter. (P.S. Scientists are saying that Mars once had lots of water...but now it is, of course, completely barren. They're looking into the geologic processes causing this.)
Those have nothing to do with the mythical flood of Noah.

Why are you asking?
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Actually my posts are not particularly centered around the flood of Noah's time now as recorded in Genesis, but I am looking up certain contentions some make as if there could not be water covering the earth. The earth (1) had been apparently--according to scientists--been covered with water ENTIRELY before land appeared, and (2) branches from trees could have floated in water from a flood, and take root in soil thereafter. (P.S. Scientists are saying that Mars once had lots of water...but now it is, of course, completely barren. They're looking into the geologic processes causing this.)
The problem is that Noah's flood covered the earth in forty days of rain and then went away rather quickly. This is physically impossible. Before land appeared there was no life other than the primitive life organisms in the oceans The water world of the past were geologic ages millions of years long, billions of years ago, and before continental drift made the continents we have today.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I think you better read up on more current views about the earth first being covered in water before the continents appeared. Have a good one! :)
I do look and study geology the water worlds you speak of were in terms of geologic ages billions of years ago. You reject science until you dishonestly cite sources to justify your agenda. Yes, before the continents were formed most of the earth was covered mostly by water at times except for some volcanic islands that represent the beginnings of continents. It is simply volume physics the continents were mostly flat with some volcanoes, and the seas were not as deep. the full subduction trenches and mountains had not formed.

During the present with the continents fully formed Noah's flood is impossible, and considering it suddenly appeared and disappeared in a short time.

Recent estimates are not necessarily 100%, but between 70 and 90 percent of the continents.


“It depends on the conditions and parameters we look at in the model, such as the height and distribution of the continents, but the primordial ocean could have flooded more than 70, 80, and even 90 percent of the early continents,” said Junjie Dong, a Ph.D. student in Earth and Planetary Sciences at the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, who led the study. “

Remember this is a geologic ages involving millions of years billions of years ago, which you do not accept
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
@shunyadragon Plus watching a documentary about the Mars exploration, scientists are saying that water was certainly on Mars before it became dry. And the posit is that is how 'life' started on the earth...hmmm, isn't that interesting?
Since you do not accept the science of abiogenesis and evolution the above is not meaningful.

Yes, when Mars was a wet planet the conditions were ideal for abiogenesis. but there remains the question of whether life existed or did Mars dried out before primitive life began. This remains unresolved. Mars had similar oceans and weather to the Earth in the past. The amount of water has not changed much on Earth for millions of years.

How is this relevant to the question of Noah's flood?

The results of the research into when the water worlds existed billions of years ago have a number of different aspects you will not likely accept. Do you accept?:

1) The water worlds took place billions of years ago.
2) The evidence demonstrates that this is the beginning of Continental Drift.
3) The continents were very flat with some volcanic activity and the oceans shallow.
4) The mountains and deep ocean trenches did not exist.
3) The was a geologic period when only primitive life existed in the oceans.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Please explain how the Earth being mostly a water covered planet with little land 3.24 MILLION years ago is evidence for a world wide flood 5-6 thousand years ago...
Actually ~3.24 billion years ago, but your question is relevant.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
He probably will not respond since you are just trolling with pointless questions and claims.
You are describing your own trolling as you do with denials and ridiculous claims. In a way I feel sorry for you. By the way, I don't read everything here -- have you realized you made a false claim when you said lava doesn't carry or deposit sediment??
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Actually ~3.24 billion years ago, but your question is relevant.
Thank you for recognizing the earth WAS covered entirely by water a long, long, long time ago, so scientists say. Same as Mars had lots of water, they say. It relates to the water in and around the EARTH, not speaking of water at Mars, but using that as a figure to see that scientists say it DID have water in the past. I am NOT speaking of the flood spoken of in Genesis, just the fact that scientists say the earth was completely overcome by water, no land a long time ago. There is still lots and lots of water on the Earth, without which life could not exist here, so scientists say. :)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You are describing your own trolling as you do with denials and ridiculous claims. In a way I feel sorry for you. By the way, I don't read everything here -- have you realized you made a false claim when you said lava doesn't carry or deposit sediment??
Please quote me.

And no, the only one trolling has been you lately. You are not fooling anyone. Why do you even try?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Since you do not accept the science of abiogenesis and evolution the above is not meaningful.

Yes, when Mars was a wet planet the conditions were ideal for abiogenesis. but there remains the question of whether life existed or did Mars dried out before primitive life began. This remains unresolved. Mars had similar oceans and weather to the Earth in the past. The amount of water has not changed much on Earth for millions of years.

How is this relevant to the question of Noah's flood?

The results of the research into when the water worlds existed billions of years ago have a number of different aspects you will not likely accept. Do you accept?:

1) The water worlds took place billions of years ago.
2) The evidence demonstrates that this is the beginning of Continental Drift.Th
3) The continents were very flat with some volcanic activity and the oceans shallow.
4) The mountains and deep ocean trenches did not exist.
3) The was a geologic period when only primitive life existed in the oceans.
It makes sense to ME (maybe not to you) that the lines scientists saw on Mars are said to have been waterways. Look, if you don't agree, so be it. I am accepting that it seems very likely that Mars had water on it, that the Earth has/had enough water to completely cover it. I'll get into the ark another time because guess what? some are realizing it is possible the ark was built and could float and house those animals. (Have a good one.) Oh, yes, I want to express my faith in that God is PROTECTING THE EARTH and WILL CONTINUE PROTECTING IT forever! Again, have a good day. He promises to do away with every bad thing PEOPLE are doing on this earth. That is why Jesus told his disciples to pray for God's KINGDOM, His rulership to come to the EARTH. It will.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Thank you for recognizing the earth WAS covered entirely by water a long, long, long time ago, so scientists say. Same as Mars had lots of water, they say. It relates to the water in and around the EARTH, not speaking of water at Mars, but using that as a figure to see that scientists say it DID have water in the past. I am NOT speaking of the flood spoken of in Genesis, just the fact that scientists say the earth was completely overcome by water, no land a long time ago. There is still lots and lots of water on the Earth, without which life could not exist here, so scientists say. :)
No, it has nothing to do with the Genesis myth.

The lack of well defined continents was why the Early Earth may have been almost all water covered. Though there were probably volcanoes even back then that were above the seas.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It makes sense to ME (maybe not to you) that the lines scientists saw on Mars are said to have been waterways. Look, if you don't agree, so be it. I am accepting that it seems very likely that Mars had water on it, that the Earth has/had enough water to completely cover it. I'll get into the ark another time because guess what? some are realizing it is possible the ark was built and could float and house those animals. (Have a good one.) Oh, yes, I want to express my faith in that God is PROTECTING THE EARTH and WILL CONTINUE PROTECTING IT forever! Again, have a good day. He promises to do away with every bad thing PEOPLE are doing on this earth. That is why Jesus told his disciples to pray for God's KINGDOM, His rulership to come to the EARTH. It will.
Oh my no!! That was just pareidolia. That was not that far back at all. There would have been almost no change since a few hundred years ago. That was the result of crude primitive telescopes and human imagination. That is all. When our telescopes improved the "canals" went away.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
It makes sense to ME (maybe not to you) that the lines scientists saw on Mars are said to have been waterways. Look, if you don't agree, so be it. I am accepting that it seems very likely that Mars had water on it, that the Earth has/had enough water to completely cover it. I'll get into the ark another time because guess what? some are realizing it is possible the ark was built and could float and house those animals. (Have a good one.) Oh, yes, I want to express my faith in that God is PROTECTING THE EARTH and WILL CONTINUE PROTECTING IT forever! Again, have a good day. He promises to do away with every bad thing PEOPLE are doing on this earth. That is why Jesus told his disciples to pray for God's KINGDOM, His rulership to come to the EARTH. It will.
You have failed to acknowledge the Geologic evidence for why the Earth was covered with water over 3 billion years ago, and why that is impossible in recent geologic history.

As far as the Arc goes no one has been able to reproduce a sea worthy Arc today as described in the Bible even with modern technology. It is physically impossible to build Noah's Arc then and now.7
 
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