Evidence of NOAH's FLOOD

[SavedByTheLord]

Wrong again. You see scientists have these really really cool inventions called "microscopes". Have you ever heard of those?

Bizarre comment shows that no one can defend the indefensible theory of evolution and billions of years.

What caused the Big Bang and what existed 1 trillion years before that?

 

[Little Dragon]

didn't say it was. but it's evidence for something. something more than shells being on top in the rocks on Mt. Everest maybe.

Seashells on the tops of mountains, means those mountains were once sea floor, that was thrust upward, by tectonic forces, in fact Mt Everest is still growing in height, as India is still colliding with Eurasia.

 

[YoursTrue]

IOW they're inside the rocks on Mt Everest.

Inside the rocks. That's interesting. Any idea how they got there inside the rocks?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Microscopes are cool. Lava/magma flows over other things (sediment perhaps) and maybe carried with it more than just what was inside the volcano, you think, as it flowed over the ground into a body of water maybe?

Experts in the field are aware of this and account for it. There are even terms for the material that can be picked up. They are rather easily identifiable. They are called xenoliths for larger chunks of material, the etymology is "foreign rock" and xenocrysts when it is a single crystal. You should be able to see that the Greek means "foreign crystal". Today many radiometric dates are based upon single crystals. All that the daters have to do is to avoid the ones of foreign material.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Inside the rocks. That's interesting. Any idea how they got there inside the rocks?

Yes. We know how they got inside the rocks.

 

[Little Dragon]

Bizarre comment shows that no one can defend the indefensible theory of evolution and billions of years.

What caused the Big Bang and what existed 1 trillion years before that?

Time and space, did not exist before the big bang.
What caused the big bang is a metaphysical question, that cannot be answered with the scientific method.
Such a question, should be asked of a philosopher, or a priest maybe.

 

[YoursTrue]

Seashells on the tops of mountains, means those mountains were once sea floor, that was thrust upward, by tectonic forces, in fact Mt Everest is still growing in height, as India is still colliding with Eurasia.

It means those mountains were once sea floor you say? I'm not saying no.
So the shells rose with them within the ground. Hmm very interesting. Dating processes begin. Somehow somewhere. with the rocks and maybe the seashells within. Very interesting, thanks.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Bizarre comment shows that no one can defend the indefensible theory of evolution and billions of years.

What caused the Big Bang and what existed 1 trillion years before that?

Oh so you have not heard of microscopes. No wonder that you are so confused. I guess everything does look like magic to you.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

Arthur C. Clarke.

 

[YoursTrue]

Time and space, did not exist before the big bang.
What caused the big bang is a metaphysical question, that cannot be answered with the scientific method.
Such a question, should be asked of a philosopher, or a priest maybe.

Just as a curiosity, not to interpret the conversation. But you know that time and space did not exist before the big bang because you know (?) there was a "big bang," is that right? And nothing before that although something was there when the "big bang" occurred so it is said, right?

 

[Little Dragon]

It means those mountains were once sea floor you say? I'm not saying no.
So the shells rose with them within the ground. Hmm very interesting. Dating processes begin. Somehow somewhere. with the rocks and maybe the seashells within. Very interesting, thanks.

No worries.

 

[YoursTrue]

Time and space, did not exist before the big bang.
What caused the big bang is a metaphysical question, that cannot be answered with the scientific method.
Such a question, should be asked of a philosopher, or a priest maybe.

Oh yes? Why? Because science cannot answer it? Test it? Know it?

 

[Subduction Zone]

It means those mountains were once sea floor you say? I'm not saying no.
So the shells rose with them within the ground. Hmm very interesting. Dating processes begin. Somehow somewhere. with the rocks and maybe the seashells within. Very interesting, thanks.

Yes, the strata was once the bottom of a shallow sea. After millions of years of deposition as the Indian plate collided with the Eurasian plate the Himalayas began to be formed. The collision force the sea beds up as the two continents continued to collide. And the collision has not stopped. The Himalayas are still rising today. At the order of a centimeter a year. I can look it up for you if you wish.

By the way, we can measure the movement of the continents using satellites these days.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Just as a curiosity, not to interpret the conversation. But you know that time and space did not exist before the big bang because you know (?) there was a "big bang," is that right? And nothing before that although something was there when the "big bang" occurred so it is said, right?

Okay, this is a poorly formed question. The current hypothesis is that time and space began together. As a result there is no "before the Big Bang". It is a hard concept for us to grasp. But that is what the evidence appears to be pointing to right now.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh yes? Why? Because science cannot answer it? Test it? Know it?

You should be asking how do they test it. Do not assume that they cannot do so.

 

[Little Dragon]

Just as a curiosity, not to interpret the conversation. But you know that time and space did not exist before the big bang because you know (?) there was a "big bang," is that right? And nothing before that although something was there when the "big bang" occurred so it is said, right?

According to the theory of rapid inflation (big bang theory)
Space and time, expanded from a dimensionless point singularity, and rapidly inflated into a 4 dimensional volume. 3 spatial dimensions 1 of time. Along with all the mass energy and the unified field force, that resulted in our 2+ trillion galaxy universe. Since at the point of singularity, the laws of physics break down, we can peek back no further.

That doesn't mean that there was not another dimensional frame of reference, external to our 4 dimensional one. In fact it may still exist, outside our universe. Our universe, one of many, in a greater reality, like bubbles in the ocean. Possibly.

 

[Little Dragon]

Oh yes? Why? Because science cannot answer it? Test it? Know it?

Cannot test, is correct.

 

[Subduction Zone]

According to the theory of rapid inflation (big bang theory)
Space and time, expanded from a dimensionless point singularity, and rapidly inflated into a 4 dimensional volume. 3 spatial dimensions 1 of time. Along with all the mass energy and the unified field force, that resulted in our 2+ trillion galaxy universe. Since at the point of singularity, the laws of physics break down, we can peek back no further.

That doesn't mean that there was not another dimensional frame of reference, external to our 4 dimensional one. In fact it may still exist, outside our universe. Our universe, one of many, in a greater reality, like bubbles in the ocean.

And scientists right now are working on testing that hypothesis. Some mathematical models point to a multiverse. Some do not. Until we can properly test ideas all we can say is what appears to be the right answer now.

 

[YoursTrue]

According to the theory of rapid inflation (big bang theory)
Space and time, expanded from a dimensionless point singularity, and rapidly inflated into a 4 dimensional volume. 3 spatial dimensions 1 of time. Along with all the mass energy and the unified field force, that resulted in our 2+ trillion galaxy universe. Since at the point of singularity, the laws of physics break down, we can peek back no further.

That doesn't mean that there was not another dimensional frame of reference, external to our 4 dimensional one. In fact it may still exist, outside our universe. Our universe, one of many, in a greater reality, like bubbles in the ocean. Possibly.

I don't go along with every theory.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Cannot test, is correct.

Aspects of it can be tested. For example the mathematical models predicted the mix of early elements. Do not ask me how, it is way beyond my understanding. But the observed concentrations of Hydrogen, Helium, Beryllium and lithium match the model. That is a form of testing.

 

[blü 2]

Bizarre comment shows that no one can defend the indefensible theory of evolution and billions of years.

Oh dear, you haven't been paying attention, have you,

You appear not to know how radiometric dating works to determine the age of geological elements.

Here's a >link< that gives you an overview of it. Let me know if you have any questions about it and I'll see if I can provide you with more information.

Or is it that you only want to hear what agrees with you and don't want to hear what contradicts you?

What caused the Big Bang and what existed 1 trillion years before that?

You've asked these questions many times before and they've been answered many times. I'm one of those who explained the position to you.

What part of those earlier answers, specifically, did you not understand? Let me know and we can try again.