Right >> Noah and Kin .. Wrong >>> no one was living out side the flooded area according to the Bible .. everyone else died.
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Evidence of NOAH's FLOOD
- Thread starter Little Nipper
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Interesting. Ten different examples of remains recovered from permafrost from a number of different locations dated from 800 years ago to 57,000 years ago. None dated to a period around 4,300 years ago. The closest to that period was the brown bear carcass dated to 3460 years ago. Of course, I'm sure the complaint will be that dating is wrong. That is always the complaint, but it never gets much evidential support. I wonder why?
At first blush, the data on the penguin colony looks pretty wild between 800 and 5,000 years ago. But these are not dates of a single age population of specimens with an overly large uncertainty in the dating. Digging deeper and reviewing the report the article draws from the authors are clear this site was occupied by different penguin colonies as recently as 800 years ago and as far back as 5,000 years. With some of the remains dated from more recent occupations and some from the older occupations. Thus the wide range.
Regardless of knowing or not knowing how these animals died and ended up in the permafrost, the number of sites and the different ages of the specimens is not evidence for a global flood some 4,300 years ago. It reflects a steady accumulation of mammals living and dying over a 60,000 year period and not suddenly all at the same time from some single catastrophe.
While there is nothing definitive indicating how they died, some evidence indicates the wolf pup may have been killed in a den collapse and two of the mammoths may have indeed drowned, with evidence of mud in their lungs. But that is not unusual in the regions of permafrost where warm season melting results in bogs, ponds and lakes due to the low to nonexistent capacity for water to percolate through the permafrost and remain at the surface.
Anyone looking to use this as evidence of a global flood or worse, to use the absence of any definitive explanation for the presence of these carcasses in the permafrost as an argument from ignorance to default to a personal belief as the answer needs to look elsewhere. Better yet, stop looking, since there is no evidence that supports a global flood for any time in the last 20,000,000 years. For support of that, one need only look at another environmental extreme of the Atacama desert.
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YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
The Bible doesn't say but it can be reckoned they died before the Flood. It would not be unusual for them to have passed on their knowledge in part to Noah and his sons.
The bible, however, says that Noah's brothers were the father's of all tent dealers and musical instrument makers (Gen 4:20-21), whereas Noah only built a boat, and doesn't say that Noah or his surviving sons and descendants were tent dwellers or musical instrument makers. Whereas Jubal and Jabal and their descendants were, and obviously weren't drowned with their grandparents (Gen 5:25-27) and mothers and their other brothers and sisters, except their sister Naamah (Gen 4:22), since she was also Noah's wife.
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Wrong. Noah's brothers (Jabal & Jubal) were obviously living outside the flooded area since they and their descendants were tent dwellers and musical instrument makers, whereas Noah and his descendants weren't. And our aborigines who arrived here over 50,000 years ago were also unaffected by the particular flood which drowned most of Noah's family.
That's because it's stories are written by many different authors with different versions.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Many false versions yes
The agreement between authors is proof that the Bible is inspired by God
You get funnier by the day.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Thanks.
My pleasure.
Start with your claim that the bible's cosmology is modern cosmology. Asked to provide quotes when I'd given you quotes showing the opposite, you waved your hand vaguely at Genesis and said, "It's in there.
But of course it isn't in there, or you could quote it to us.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Read Genesis. If you are looking for the real truth, read it then the rest of the Bible.
McBell
Unbound
Which version?
Genesis 7:20 - The Duration of the Flood
The waters rose and covered the mountaintops to a depth of fifteen cubits.
biblehub.com
It would behoove you to educate yourself, so you won’t post replies that reveal your ignorance. Check the Hebrew too, I’m beggin’ ya. Then you can apologize for your impertinence.
Regarding your supposed rebuttals …. they have already been addressed. I’m not going to repeat myself.
You can find the answers you seek, in this very thread.
Such as the false versions which claim that less than 4000 years ago the ocean level magically rose by 9 metres per hour for 40 days from an extra 4.5 billion cubic kilometres of water which then magically disappeared.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Rubbish from you.Genesis 7:20 - The Duration of the Flood
The waters rose and covered the mountaintops to a depth of fifteen cubits.biblehub.com
It would behoove you to educate yourself, so you won’t post replies that reveal your ignorance. Check the Hebrew too, I’m beggin’ ya. Then you can apologize for your impertinence.
Regarding your supposed rebuttals …. they have already been addressed. I’m not going to repeat myself.
You can find the answers you seek, in this very thread.
I know all about the worldwide flood.
The Bible has a prophecy that is our time many would deny the worldwide flood.
So you a living breathing fulfillment of prophecy. God made you do it too.
You see? Once again you're evading the issue.
And yet this is all about your request to be shown any falsehood on your part,
Just quote the parts of Genesis you rely on for your claim. It's your claim, you say the quotes are there, so it's not for me to do your homework for you.
Provide the quotes or admit you can't, one or the other.
What could be fairer than that?
No, that’s the movie where Anthony Hopkins plays Noah’s granddad. Lol.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Is this going to be like all of your other claimed prophecies that never matched what you claimed?
McBell
Unbound
Ouch.
Even with the relevant verses presented you still are able to make a fool of yourself....