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Evidence of NOAH's FLOOD

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I am not sure what you're referring to specifically here. However thanks for your reply, and sure, at some point, we can discuss it!
I'm specifically stating that from my knowledge the line of descent according to the theory isn't clear. First it starts with a cell or two burgeoning out because maybe a thermal vent or something else. Then eventually after a very long time plants and animals evolved somehow differently at a conveniently similar time so they can co-exist. Maybe. Or maybe plants don't need animals but I think they need insects to survive. I'm not sure. Maybe some do and some don't. What do you think?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Your answer is muddled with sarcasm.
Rightly so.
Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?
"Look at Behemoth, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox. What strength it has in its loins, what power in the muscles of its belly! Its tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of its thighs are close-knit."

You got brachiosaur out of that? A behemoth is just a four-legged beast.
Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?
Most civilizations have settled along waterways which tend to flood on occasion. Pretty simple.
There are about 30,000 figurines of dinosaurs date about 2500 years ago. How do you explain that?
You made it up.
How do you explain the carved Stegosaurus in that temple.
You made it up.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Yes, I understand. But! the theory doesn't hold water in the sense of differences between, let's say, horses and humans. Or humans and lions. I'm obviously not an expert, so I'll leave it there for now.
Of course you're not an expert, so you have no basis to reject the conclusions that experts make. That is the arrogance of religious influence. If you understood the science then you would understand how all living organisms are related. My experience reading your posts reveals that you have a strong bias against science due to your religious beliefs.
Not everyone understands the creation account, even among those who vigorously profess to believe it.
There is no basis in fact to interpret any of the 200 creation stories in human history literally. You are obviously doing that and using it as if a factual framework to assess evolution. That is your flaw, that's why you get science wrong. If you can't sevarate your religious beleifs and assumptions from undestanding what is true about how things are then you will continue to get science wrong.
So I won't go into detail now because of certain factors, not to argue over it, but just to say that the Darwinian model does not add up in its entirety imo. Perhaps I'll detail this another time.
We know this is creationist bias, not reasonable skepticism. You keep acting as if we don't understand your learned bias.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
No, not intentionally …. just misinformed.
Yes, right, all of us are misinformed. It's not like we can read your posts or anything.


Take, for instance, the people on here who claim to ‘speak with dead human spirits.’
Do you think they’re making this up? (Well, some could be delusional. But not all of them.) I know you know this; you posted on some of the threads.
I think they're mistaken. But why are we changing the subject?
Those same intelligent forces which are misleading them, are also behind much (not all) of the other confusing ideologies in this world.
Religion has been a misleading influence on mankind, due to such misleading entities. The Bible informs us that they involve themselves in human politics, also. Hence, the confusion, distrust, & enmity between various groups, to the point of killing themselves, just to kill others!

To be taught such ideology, is clearly from an inhumane source!


IMO, everyone will stare into a mirror, regarding all ideologies that have been promoted throughout the millennia of human existence.

Most everyone will be given the opportunity to adjust their thinking based on the facts, IMO.
Don't know what this has to do with anything.
I think I’m willing to humble myself and readjust my thinking on topics where I am wrong. I hope everyone else will too.

So long
Mm hmm. I guess we'll see you again in a couple of weeks when you show up to re-type the exact same arguments all over again. As though this never happened.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
I'm specifically stating that from my knowledge the line of descent according to the theory isn't clear. First it starts with a cell or two burgeoning out because maybe a thermal vent or something else. Then eventually after a very long time plants and animals evolved somehow differently at a conveniently similar time so they can co-exist. Maybe. Or maybe plants don't need animals but I think they need insects to survive. I'm not sure. Maybe some do and some don't. What do you think?
Early plants did not need animals to survive, since they were all spore bearing plants, no seeds or pollen. Just spores, like Fungus spores. Ferns are an example of such a plant. However eventually the two kingdoms began to mutually cooperate, with as you say, insects pollinating flowering plants.
The two main divisions of land plants are the angiosperms (flowering plants) and gymnosperms (non flowering plants).
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
But God created the wheat and rye that was used to produce the hybrid. And God put into their makeup the ability to be combined into a hybrid and the scientists that did the hybridization. So all glory to God who created all things.
Wheat and Rye would make me die.
(Gluten triggers muh immune system, in bad ways)

Bad God! Bad!
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Early plants did not need animals to survive, since they were all spore bearing plants, no seeds or pollen. Just spores, like Fungus spores. Ferns are an example of such a plant. However eventually the two kingdoms began to mutually cooperate, with as you say, insects pollinating flowering plants.
The two main divisions of land plants are the angiosperms (flowering plants) and gymnosperms (non flowering plants).
And it's hard to believe both kingdoms emerged by evolution at just the right time. In fact, it's unbelievable but that's what evolutionists say about two kingdoms coming by natural growth at just the right time. Like I said, the chances are um .. disproportionate. Thanks for your response per the educated fellows.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Wheat and Rye would make me die.
(Gluten triggers muh immune system, in bad ways)

Bad God! Bad!
Ah...I like rye, was diagnosed with gluten problems as a little girl because I was always tired. My mother took me to the dr. Like 5 years old. Maybe I should try a gluten free diet again. Much older now.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
And it's hard to believe both kingdoms emerged by evolution at just the right time. In fact, it's unbelievable but that's what evolutionists say about two kingdoms coming by natural growth at just the right time. Like I said, the chances are um .. disproportionate. Thanks for your response per the educated fellows.

Non flowering plants came long before flowering plants. Here, this may help.

Timeline of plant evolution - Wikipedia
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
I found an answer about the big flood, the big freeze of 940 million years ago.

The bad reasoning is accepting that the earth is only 6000 yrs old.
OAS dating is always wrong when it is over 6000 years ago.

The early snowball Earth is a big problem for AOS long ages.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
OAS dating is always wrong when it is over 6000 years ago.
Old Age Security.................. What is wrong is the 6k creation, not the other way around.
The early snowball Earth is a big problem for AOS long ages.


Sure, any model beyond the 6k-stupidity, will be wrong to you.

How will you live forever, if you have no idea how to be honest with yourself?
 
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