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Evidence of NOAH's FLOOD

Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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SavedByTheLord said:
And I glanced at the link and found not real rebuttal there, just bad reasoning
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Oh my! All that you have is bad reasoning. I need to remind you once again that you have demonstrated that you only have an elementary school level of science education multiple times. And you refuse offers to help you to learn.

And when you are shown to be wrong you run away.

When you make claims about others the Bible has a rule. It tells you that you cannot say false things about others. So please show that you did not just bear false witness against another Christian.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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YoursTrue said:
And it's hard to believe both kingdoms emerged by evolution at just the right time. In fact, it's unbelievable but that's what evolutionists say about two kingdoms coming by natural growth at just the right time. Like I said, the chances are um .. disproportionate. Thanks for your response per the educated fellows.
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It was hardly at "the right time". Both species existed, but eventually they began to profit off of each other. Once they did that what helped on helped the other and they evolved together after that time.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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SavedByTheLord said:
OAS dating is always wrong when it is over 6000 years ago.
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Prove it.
SavedByTheLord said:
The early snowball Earth is a big problem for AOS long ages.
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Again, prove it. Just making foolish and ignorant claims is not a refutation. You were complaining about handwaving earlier. When you make claims such as this the burden of proof is upon you. If you make a claim like this and refuse to support it, and then repeat it you are just admitting that you are wrong again and again.
 
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Monty

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SavedByTheLord said:
OAS dating is always wrong when it is over 6000 years ago.
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Since you claim that we are all descended from a single person created 6000 years ago and whose rib tissue was then cloned to make another person with identical DNA, can you explain why we don't all share the same DNA genome now and all look identical? And can you explain why there are 3 alleles for the gene for the ABO blood group instead of 1 or 2 as inherited from that person. And since you claim that there was a bottleneck in our species less than 4000 years ago then we all should look like Noah and his sister Naamah since she was also his wife and we are therefore all descended from them, and my Y chromosome should be identical to Noah's and every other Y chromosome on the planet.

Or has our species gradually evolved from mutations to our genes, and why Barrack Obama doesn't look and behave like Donald Trump, and why we can breed with chimpanzees, and why there are three alleles for the ABO blood group and not 1 or 2.
 
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SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

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Monty said:
Since you claim that we are all descended from a single person created 6000 years ago and whose rib tissue was then cloned to make another person with identical DNA, can you explain why we don't all share the same DNA genome now and all look identical? And can you explain why there are 3 alleles for the gene for the ABO blood group instead of 1 or 2 as inherited from that person. And since you claim that there was a bottleneck in our species less than 4000 years ago then we all should look like Noah and his sister Naamah since she was also his wife and we are therefore all descended from them, and my Y chromosome should be identical to Noah's and every other Y chromosome on the planet.

Or has our species gradually evolved from mutations to our genes, and why Barrack Obama doesn't look and behave like Donald Trump, and why we can breed with chimpanzees, and why there are three alleles for the ABO blood group and not 1 or 2.
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God is Almighty and he did not clone Eve from Adam. So God made Eve different .
 
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Bthoth

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SavedByTheLord said:
Actually there is and if you knew anything about the Bible there are many reasons.
You are without knowledge of the Bible and science.
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Metaphor for cell division and universal wisdom of life: The initial life must give a portion of itself to live into the next generations.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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SavedByTheLord said:
Actually there is and if you knew anything about the Bible there are many reasons.
You are without knowledge of the Bible and science.
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Then why can't you support any of your claims. And I can easily support mine?

You ran away from our discussion on the Coelacanth. Is it because you realized that I am more than ready to show how you were wrong in all of your claims? I am still ready to go over that find with you.

And how about your induction argument where I pointed out the basic flaws that refuted that. You ran away when it became clear that you did not even know what a premise was.
 
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Monty

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SavedByTheLord said:
God is Almighty and he did not clone Eve from Adam. So God made Eve different .
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But why aren't all Y chromosomes identical if you claim that we are all descended from Noah and his sister Naamah?

And why did the writer of the Gen 2 creation story say that Adam's rib tissue was cloned, instead of saying that the male creator god waved his magic wand again when he created the female person in the image and likeness of one of the goddesses who attended the meeting of gods and goddesses described in the Gen 1 creation story?
 
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metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Hockeycowboy said:
Metis,

Did you read these?
I’ve been over the Wikipedia article several times.
It doesn’t explain how the Permafrost formed….mostly it’s content, the effect of global warming, etc.

The second article is interesting. So thanks, I never read that one.
But it offers nothing to discredit the Flood. You could say the dating, but it simply isn’t accurate…..

I’ve explained several times that the water canopy, existing over the earth at that time, from which much of the water came, would have diluted / diffused much of the Sun’s radiation hitting earth’s surface.

And we still have the enigmas of the Permafrost’s origin, and the animals found within it.

(In that second article, did you see the timeframe of the penguin colony’s existence? The article said “between 800 and 5,000 years ago”; not very exact, is it?)


So long.
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I provided info on how organisms can sometimes be frozen for sometimes centuries, and additional snow and ice precipitated after that, so there's really no great mystery.

The importance of the Flood narratives is not whether it actually happened but what it teaches theologically. If one is fixated on the former, they might totally miss the important teachings of the latter that can be important for today.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

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Monty said:
But why aren't all Y chromosomes identical if you claim that we are all descended from Noah and his sister Naamah?

And why did the writer of the Gen 2 creation story say that Adam's rib tissue was cloned, instead of saying that the male creator god waved his magic wand again when he created the female person in the image and likeness of one of the goddesses who attended the meeting of gods and goddesses described in the Gen 1 creation story?
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who said Eve was cloned?
And what is impossible with God.

what was the first offspring of the first creature?
 
blü 2

blü 2

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SavedByTheLord said:
I always answer when I see a post that is not just total garbage and even some of them I answer.

Where did the universe come from?

If the explanation is the Bing Bang with or without inflation, what was there before that?
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YOU asked for examples of your own falsehood.

I gave you two extremely simple clear and unambiguous examples, first your pretense that the bible supports modern cosmology, and second your pretense that the verses affirming this are in Genesis.

I've pointed out and now point out again that all you have to do is cite and quote the verses in Genesis that you rely on.

But as you know, they're not there and your claims regarding them are knowing and deliberate falsehoods on your part.

Which is exactly what you asked to be shown,
 
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