My brother is a retired engineer for Norfolk Southern out of Indiana. Did you have a point?
Yes. Irony.
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My brother is a retired engineer for Norfolk Southern out of Indiana. Did you have a point?
OkYes. Irony.
Perfect timing.
That's how you see it. Others don't have to agree or accept it but its how you see it.
I think your concept of "proof" is way wider than ours.
...and what is this evidence you speak of?
OK -- but I'm not seeing your point.subjective depends on the person.
Its a fact I like guns. Its a fact Bob doesn't like guns. Both are true
Quitter!By the way, I'm not currently taking sides right now on anything, at this time, in this thread, that I'm aware of.
I'm just posting info about Debating.
I think of evidence as generally observable, testable, repeatable or productive. It's best applied to concrete assertions of actual things or facts -- like God, Santa Claus, or the number of legs on a spider..I would offer one can look at the evidence with different frames of references, outside the box one might say!
If one wants to determine what is Justice, what is the evidence of it? Then in consideration of this, what is the highest level of justice we can imagine? If we imagine the most great justice, it is logical we can always outdo what we originally considered.
Now, in that research, what happens if one comes upon the most plausible explanation they have ever considered and it was reported to have a source beyond this world?
A choice is given, a different frame of reference, plausible or not plausible?
I think of evidence as generally observable, testable, repeatable or productive. It's best applied to concrete assertions of actual things or facts -- like God, Santa Claus, or the number of legs on a spider..
Abstractions like justice are pretty hard to pin down with concrete, objective facts.
How does one measure imagined things, to determine the 'most great'?
But there are things we can't imagine, and things that don't seem to have a source.I see everything we can imagine has a source. The source could be from our own self, devoid of any truth, or sourced from a universal mind. The other possibility is it could be a mixture of both.
Many great inventions come from imagining the solutions.
The OP has demonstrated no evidence, just claims.That is what the OP has indeed demonstrated.
Regards Tony
But there are things we can't imagine, and things that don't seem to have a source.
The OP has demonstrated no evidence, just claims.
it is still boxed.
Real reality does not conform to our everyday experience or common sense.Yet we do not even consider that our mind is from an intelligent source and that all that is created does not have a source?
To me that denies pure logic and reason, it is not intelligence when we deny there is higher intelligence behind our mind.
Real reality does not conform to our everyday experience or common sense.
And I'm still waiting for some evidence of higher intelligence.
89 pages to say read the Bahai texts?This OP is was not aimed at providing material from the evidence, just offing the sources.
Regards Tony
89 pages to say read the Bahai texts?
He needs to cut down on the carbs.I think he was just trying to ask, "Would the Baha'i scriptures be considered evidence?"
But, without this thread, we wouldn't have all these models to gaze upon in their natural poses:
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He needs to cut down on the carbs.