Evidences Supporting the Biblical Flood

[Jose Fly]

We'll see.

This is when I realize the forum needs a "how bizarre" rating button.

 

[sooda]

I believe there is plenty of history in the Bible. I & II Kings, I & II Chronicles to name a few more obvious ones.

Jonah is a comic novella about xenophobia. Exodus never happened nor did a global flood.

 

[sooda]

I believe the fact that there were humanoids on earth 130,000 years ago does not alter either creation story or make them myths.

Take a look at the time (years) between Noah's flood and the Tower of Babel myth.

 

[Jose Fly]

Classic Three Stooges act; Duck, Bob and Weave.

Oh no. @Hockeycowboy never dodges or evades....he just gets tired of repeating himself.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Much of it is no more credible than the Harry Potter books, which are a much better read, imo.

That's only because people have no understanding or knowledge of what the bible actually does say and confirms.

 

[ecco]

Some Christians have very creative creation stories. I think that it begins as an attempt to cover for the fact that a 6,000 year old Earth is ridiculous. Sadly their innovations are no more believable.

If only Marcion had won out, then we wouldn't be having these silly discussions.

 

[ecco]

So unless you have some evidence to bring forth showing a human being was there to give witness how exactly the birth of the earth and Universe actually started.

What human beings were "there" to give witness to the words of "Moses?"

 

[ecco]

That's only because people have no understanding or knowledge of what the bible actually does say and confirms.

You are not the first theist on this forum to claim knowledge of scripture that others do not have. What we find is that the person making those claims also needs to stretch and bend the words of scripture to accommodate their "insight".

 

[Faithofchristian]

No as I never posted any narrative. I was correcting you, which you accepted, then pointing out how you altered the the data to fit your narrative. Try again.

Nope not at all, the only thing that I agreed on is what you posted back in
Post #1006 ( More like 64 million years ago)
So this I agree on, that dinosaurs being on earth back like 64 million years ago.
So this is the only thing that i did agreed on.

Now which man was here on earth at the time of the dinosaurs, Was it the Celestial man or was it the Terrestrial man ?

 

[sooda]

That's only because people have no understanding or knowledge of what the bible actually does say and confirms.

The Bible doesn't really say that the whole earth was flooded and that every living thing was killed. The Nephilim managed to survive and it was only 339 years between the time they got off the Ark and the destruction of the Tower of Babel.

I think the Tower of Babel story is more about the collapse of a civilization and the collapse of literacy. There have always been lots of towers in the Middle East. Some are still standing.

 

[Faithofchristian]

What human beings were "there" to give witness to the words of "Moses?"

Like about a million people were there to witness the words of Moses.

But now the question is, What man was there at the time of the dinosaurs 64 million years ago.

Was it the Celestial man or the Terrestrial man ?

 

[Faithofchristian]

The Bible doesn't really say that the whole earth was flooded and that every living thing was killed. The Nephilim managed to survive and it was only 339 years between the time they got off the Ark and the destruction of the Tower of Babel.

I think the Tower of Babel story is more about the collapse of a civilization and the collapse of literacy. There have always been lots of towers in the Middle East. Some are still standing.

What your referring to, Is the flood of Noah's.
The flood of Noah's was the second flood that came upon the earth. Unto which didn't cover the whole earth.

Now the first flood covered the whole earth. Which was Million years before the flood of Noah's.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nope not at all, the only thing that I agreed on is what you posted back in
Post #1006 ( More like 64 million years ago)
So this I agree on, that dinosaurs being on earth back like 64 million years ago.
So this is the only thing that i did agreed on.

Now which man was here on earth at the time of the dinosaurs, Was it the Celestial man or was it the Terrestrial man ?

There is no evidence of any man on Earth at that time. The logical approach is not to believe that such a man existed until reliable evidence is found for such a belief.

By the way, poor reinterpretations of a book of myths is not evidence.

 

[sooda]

What your referring to, Is the flood of Noah's.
The flood of Noah's was the second flood that came upon the earth. Unto which didn't cover the whole earth.

Now the first flood covered the whole earth. Which was Million years before the flood of Noah's.

Aren't you talking about Pangea?

Pangaea or Pangea was a supercontinent that existed during the late Paleozoic and early Mesozoic eras. It assembled from earlier continental units approximately 335 million years ago, and it began to break apart about 175 million years ago.

 

[sooda]

There is no evidence of any man on Earth at that time. The logical approach is not to believe that such a man existed until reliable evidence is found for such a belief.

By the way, poor reinterpretations of a book of myths is not evidence.

At this point the truth seems to be that the flood was local, lasted four days and the ark was a couple of river barges hauling beer, grain and livestock. It happened in the spring of 2900 BC.

 

[ecco]

The Bible doesn't really say that the whole earth was flooded and that every living thing was killed.

From BibleHub

King James Bible
And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; andevery thing that is in the earth shall die.​

This is ostensibly a direct quote from God. The only way "all flesh ... under heaven" could be destroyed is if the entire earth is covered.

 

[ecco]

What human beings were "there" to give witness to the words of "Moses?"

Like about a million people were there to witness the words of Moses.

Then you can readily show where it says that a million people heard Moses say:

And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.​

But now the question is, What man was there at the time of the dinosaurs 64 million years ago.

None. What's your point? Are you denying that dinosaurs once lived on this earth?

Was it the Celestial man or the Terrestrial man ?

I only know of:

man
Dictionary result for man
/man/
noun

1. 
   
2. a human being of either sex; a person.

Are you referring to...

The Celestials are a group of fictional characters appearing in American comic bookspublished by Marvel Comics.

Immensely powerful and of huge humanoid shape, the Celestials are some of the oldest entities in the Marvel Comics universe. They debuted in the Bronze Age of Comic Books and have appeared in Marvel publications for four decades. They also try to harness the power of the infinity stones.
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...If so, are you implying that these folks were around when the dinosaurs were?

 

[ecco]

The flood of Noah's was the second flood that came upon the earth. Unto which didn't cover the whole earth.

Are you saying the Bible misquoted God? My emphases...

13And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. 14Make thee an ark ... and third stories shalt thou make it. 17And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
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God said unto Noah - destroy all flesh

That's pretty unambiguous.

 

[sooda]

From BibleHub

King James Bible
And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; andevery thing that is in the earth shall die.​

This is ostensibly a direct quote from God. The only way "all flesh ... under heaven" could be destroyed is if the entire earth is covered.

Their whole world was probably flooded.. meaning the world as they knew it.. The Euphrates river basin in pretty flat.

Moses didn't write the Pentateuch... There were many authors and it was written 800 years after Moses... much of it AFTER the Babylonian exile. The Hebrews learned the flood story in Babylon.

Dispensational Premillennialism is fairly recent.. Having been invented by Darby and Cyrus Scofield. It has become quite popular since the 1970s.

 

[Faithofchristian]

From BibleHub

King James Bible
And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; andevery thing that is in the earth shall die.​

This is ostensibly a direct quote from God. The only way "all flesh ... under heaven" could be destroyed is if the entire earth is covered.

But first a person has to acknowledge that at the time of Noah's, people and animals were only concentrated in one area on the earth.
And not the whole earth at the time of Noah's, So the whole earth was not all flooded over with water.

The whole purpose for the flood was down out the Nephilim Giants. Seeing that the Nephilim were only concentrated in one area of the earth at the time of Noah's.

So the whole earth needed not to be covered over with water.