Evil in the world and God

[Revoltingest]

I don't deny it.

It sure appears so at times.
But then, your posts are hard to read.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

It sure appears so at times.
But then, your posts are hard to read.

Yeah, you are an engineer and business man. I am a soldier and civil servant, who have read to many books.

 

[Koldo]

Most of evil on this planet earth is because of humans. God gave humans free will. starvation could stop tomorrow if all humans cooperated.

I believe God gave us free will because God is loving. God do not want someone to be forced to love him.

I also believe this life is also a test. Like a school for the soul. To learn lessions. This worrld is full of contradictions because to know what goodness is, the opposite must exist. to know what is hot, you have to know how cold it is. if the world was only goodness then this life would not be a test and our soul would not learn so much

Do you agree or disagree? Any thoughts?

Is there any reason in particular to believe in any of this other than to protect a firmly held belief in the existence of a certain god?

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah, you are an engineer and business man. I am a soldier and civil servant, who have read to many books.

Don't forget that I'm a draft dodger.
**** serving in the military <--- This is a subjective view based upon objective facts about government & the military.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Most of evil on this planet earth is because of humans. God gave humans free will. starvation could stop tomorrow if all humans cooperated.

I believe God gave us free will because God is loving. God do not want someone to be forced to love him.

I also believe this life is also a test. Like a school for the soul. To learn lessions. This worrld is full of contradictions because to know what goodness is, the opposite must exist. to know what is hot, you have to know how cold it is. if the world was only goodness then this life would not be a test and our soul would not learn so much

Do you agree or disagree? Any thoughts?

A less glib answer than my last one: I think your explanation has some fatal flaws.

For one thing, what do you think "free will" is? Isn't it just about our choice of which of our impulses to follow? It isn't about choosing which impulses to have; we don't control that.

Free will can only lead to evil if we have evil impulses to begin with.

As an analogy, think of free will like an election: you're free to choose any candidate you want... but God is the one who nominates all the candidates. Even though your choice is free, you're only ever going to elect a fascist if God decides to nominate a fascist.

 

[muhammad_isa]

What makes you think that sincere repentance will not be forgotten, say, a billion years later in heaven? I mean, if those souls have free will, then all bets are really off.

Well, we will just have to wait and see .. meanwhile..

 

[Stevicus]

You should use "subjective" to describe subjective things.
And "objective" to describe objective things.
The words have different meanings that are useful.
(I know Stevie will disagree, but that's just his path.)

"Stevie"? Who's that?

 

[Revoltingest]

"Stevie"? Who's that?

Some guy.
But not a fungi.

 

[Stevicus]

Some guy.
But not a fungi.

I'm reminded of someone I knew in fifth grade.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm reminded of someone I knew in fifth grade.

You got that far, eh.
Braggart!

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Don't forget that I'm a draft dodger.
**** serving in the military <--- This is a subjective view based upon objective facts about government & the military.

Yeah, I know. We are different for certain aspects of properly both nature and nurture.

 

[Ponder This]

Sure you are, as are we all. You obey your will like everybody else, and are not the source of it - just like an unconscious robot that necessarily obeys electrical instructions. Maybe you mean that you are conscious or organic rather than metallic. Doesn't change the calculus. If you are a passive recipient of your will and obedience to it is imposed, you meet the qualifications for robothood. Here's hoping that your neural circuits direct you to find happiness.

Saying people obey their own will is a nothing statement. Oh no! I do what I will!