Evolution couldn't be true

pro4life · Oct 30, 2014

Ouroboros said:
Right. Kind'a. By the way, those examples are presented in biological anthropology, amongst other ones, to show the difference between evolution and adaptation, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Evolution is really about change over time, not just speciation. Speciation is only one thing in evolutionary theory.

So what's your problem with the GULOP again? That's not an adaptation but a mutation through infection, as you probably know. And we share exactly the same with chimps. Which proves that we share ancestry since the only way to get exactly the same is to share genetic ancestors.

All living things share properties of life. All living things need water. This doesn't mean that we are related.

pro4life · Oct 30, 2014

Norrin-6- said:
But can't every living thing? And potato bugs are the most advanced species on earth.

premise: all living things can inhale cigars ; conclusion: all living things are related

Ouroboros · Oct 30, 2014

pro4life said:
Evolution is a specie becoming into another specie. A cow becoming a whale. Adaptation is your avg heart rate reducing from 80 to 65 after 3 months of physical conditioning.

You know, since you took the classes, that Evolution is more than just speciation.

Basically, you don't believe there are mutations and natural selection, is that so?

Ouroboros · Oct 30, 2014

pro4life said:
All living things share properties of life. All living things need water. This doesn't mean that we are related.

Uh. But the GULOP is identical between humans and chimps. You know this. And you know why statistically this is such a strong argument, since you've taken the classes. So I'm not sure what your going for here.

pro4life · Oct 30, 2014

Ouroboros said:
You know, since you took the classes, that Evolution is more than just speciation.

Basically, you don't believe there are mutations and natural selection, is that so?

I am in the business of mutations, that's what I do for a living.
As for natural selection, many people have different meanings on that, whats yours?

Norrin-6- · Oct 30, 2014

Ouroboros said:
Basically, you don't believe there are mutations and natural selection, is that so?

Not to speak for him, but he can't possibly believe in them if he thinks an example of evolution is a cow becoming a whale.

Ouroboros · Oct 30, 2014

pro4life said:
premise: all living things can inhale cigars ; conclusion: all living things are related

That's such a ridiculous oversimplification of the evidence for evolution, and you should know it. I seriously wonder why you don't. You said you took classes, yet you make such a statement?

Bunyip · Oct 30, 2014

pro4life said:
Evolution is a specie becoming into another specie. A cow becoming a whale. Adaptation is your avg heart rate reducing from 80 to 65 after 3 months of physical conditioning.

Nope. Evolution is change over time. Change within a species is also evolution. Cows did not evolve from whales mate - that is Harry Potter, not evolution.

How can you expect people to believe your claims to have studied evolution when you think that science believes whales evolved from cows, and that changes within a species are not evolution?

Ouroboros · Oct 30, 2014

pro4life said:
I am in the business of mutations, that's what I do for a living.

But you're claiming that mutations don't exist, instead only adaptations are happening.

As for natural selection, many people have different meanings on that, whats yours?

??? Seriously???

I'm not sure if you're for real or not...

Norrin-6- · Oct 30, 2014

pro4life said:
I am in the business of mutations, that's what I do for a living.

Me too, I invented Spider-Man.

Ouroboros · Oct 30, 2014

Norrin-6- said:
Not to speak for him, but he can't possibly believe in them if he thinks an example of evolution is a cow becoming a whale.

Well, evolution does explain that step too by many steps of mutations and selections. He knows this, and he should also know that we do have fossils for many of these intermediate forms between cow and whale, also we have genetic markers to show for it. His oversimplification of the evidence and what evolution is make me distrust what he's saying.

pro4life · Oct 30, 2014

Ouroboros said:
But you're claiming that mutations don't exist, instead only adaptations are happening.

??? Seriously???

I'm not sure if you're for real or not...

Answer the question then we can move on from there.

pro4life · Oct 30, 2014

Norrin-6- said:
Me too, I invented Spider-Man.

There are millions of mutations that happen in your body every minute and amazingly your body has the capacity and capability to fix these mutations. There is no such thing as a good mutation.

Ouroboros · Oct 30, 2014

pro4life said:
Answer the question then we can move on from there.

I can't because I can't take you seriously anymore.

Actually, I think you're not being honest about things too. Based on several things you've said now, especially the last couple of minutes.

Sorry bud, but I have no time for your kind. I'm putting you on ignore.

Bye bye! *waves*

Norrin-6- · Oct 30, 2014

Ouroboros said:
His oversimplification of the evidence and what evolution is make me distrust what he's saying.

Well, yeah, he seems nothing but dishonest. That's why I've been making a mockery of this thread, but I'm done with it now.

Ouroboros · Oct 30, 2014

Norrin-6- said:
Well, yeah, he seems nothing but dishonest. That's why I've been making a mockery of this thread, but I'm done with it now.

Totally agree.

There's a bunch of telltale signs that he's not being honest, so I put him on ignore. I rather use my time talking to reasonable people.

pro4life · Oct 30, 2014

Ouroboros said:
Well, evolution does explain that step too by many steps of mutations and selections. He knows this, and he should also know that we do have fossils for many of these intermediate forms between cow and whale, also we have genetic markers to show for it. His oversimplification of the evidence and what evolution is make me distrust what he's saying.

The commentator was trying to discredit me by using this example (cow to whale) but it is a widely accepted "fact" in the athiest world.

Ouroboros said:
I can't because I can't take you seriously anymore.

Actually, I think you're not being honest about things too. Based on several things you've said now, especially the last couple of minutes.

Sorry bud, but I have no time for your kind. I'm putting you on ignore.

Bye bye! *waves*

This is your opinion and you're obliged to it.

pro4life · Oct 30, 2014

Norrin-6- said:
Well, yeah, he seems nothing but dishonest. That's why I've been making a mockery of this thread, but I'm done with it now.

You have been refuted by Ouroboros, go reread the comments above.

Skwim · Oct 30, 2014

pro4life said:
Exactly! We have construed the difference between Adaptation and Evolution. Adaptation for example is when you lift weights or live on a mountain, you will be able to grow stronger muscles and build. Evolution on the other hand is a specie completely becoming into another specie.

And you claim to have studied evolution.

"I have taken many evolution courses from human paleontology to evolution of primates."

As someone one said about your studies.

Then you must have fallen asleep in all the classes. My condolences for your waste of time and money.

pro4life · Oct 30, 2014

Skwim said:
And you claim to have studied evolution.

"I have taken many evolution courses from human paleontology to evolution of primates."

As someone one said about your studies.

Then you must have fallen asleep in all the classes. My condolences for your waste of time and money.

That is your opinion and your entitled to it.

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