Evolution My ToE

[shunyadragon]

The fact of life on earth in the time of the Hebrews was that slavery was part of life. If you were organizing and raising up a people and nation at that time would you not deal with it? God did.

The way He dealt with that particular wickedness and oppression by wicked mankind was to set rules regarding it. God used slavery also because His rebelling people had to be punished at times and this involved them losing the freedom He gave them!
God also used the military of wicked nations to punish other nations as required. That does not mean He likes war. That does not mean He thought the tools used to correct His people were pure and holy or righteous.
God used soldiers to kill His son. That does not mean that the Roman empire and military were pure and good! On the contrary.
God used Satan to test the couple in the garden. That does not mean Satan was good.
God used the flood to rid the world of great evil. That does not mean huge floods are wonderful and good.
God used fire from heaven to destroy perverted wicked cities. That does not mean that He recommends you sticking your head in a barbq!
God uses what is here in the world for His purposes, and He tells us all that is in the world is evil!

What is good is to love people and show them Salvation, and feed the poor and heal, and do good. Believers are to treat employees (whether called slaves, soldiers, sweat shop workers, cashiers, underground economy employess, maids etc etc) fairly and kindly. That is what God says about slavery.

He also died a horrible painful death to set slaves free! All people on earth that have not accepted Christ are slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't try and tell us He does not want to set them free.

Did not address the issue . . .

The fact of life of the Hebrews is the laws and mandates of God. It is described as being mandated by God as far as foreign captured slaves. The references have been already provided many times.

No where in the Bible is slavery condemned.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Great, keep us posted on what spirits are real. We care.

You should, dad. Perhaps if you learned s little you might not blaspheme against your God so often.

 

[Audie]

You should, dad. Perhaps if you learned s little you might not blaspheme against your God so often.

Might prove pleasant too, to not be always o'erwhelmed
by such powerful waves of confusion.

 

[ecco]

Psalm 137:9

That's really nasty.

 

[Audie]

I was thinking of future action among those that have not yet engaged in it. This sort of thinking grooms them to support or engage in such action. The historical record supports that prediction.

The baby bashers felt the righteous fervor of having God on their side as justification for their actions without any evidence this was more than people on people atrocity.

He wants others to find that same false justification.

As noted elsewhere, public enemies.

 

[ecco]

I was explaining that when looking at Gensisis one needs to consider the language it was written in, rather than modern languages.

When looking at Gensisis one needs to consider the relative ignorance of the people who wrote it.

 

[Audie]

It's a puzzle to me how so many can justify the most brutal actions by twisting the meaning of a few simple words.



I think it leads to a never ending circle of violence and hate.

Another puzzle is how his preachin' was relevant to evolution.

 

[dad]

You should, dad. Perhaps if you learned s little you might not blaspheme against your God so often.

No problem, if I stop believing in spirits that will mean no blasphemy. I suggest you start believing cause you are inspired.

 

[dad]

Did not address the issue . . .

The fact of life of the Hebrews is the laws and mandates of God. It is described as being mandated by God as far as foreign captured slaves. The references have been already provided many times.

No where in the Bible is slavery condemned.

Oh, I see back to ignoring your defeat and parroting. OK.

 

[shunyadragon]

Oh, I see back to ignoring your defeat and parroting. OK.

No, just the facts.

Did not address the issue . . .

The fact of life of the Hebrews is the laws and mandates of God. It is described as being mandated by God as far as foreign captured slaves. The references have been already provided many times.

No where in the Bible is slavery condemned.

 

[dad]

When looking at Gensisis one needs to consider the relative ignorance of the people who wrote it.

Better to understand the demonstrated ignorance of those who read it!

 

[dad]

No,

Polly want a cracker?

 

[shunyadragon]

Polly want a cracker?

Your leaving crumbs all over the floor. No more crackers.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No problem, if I stop believing in spirits that will mean no blasphemy. I suggest you start believing cause you are inspired.

Pure dad blather.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Better to understand the demonstrated ignorance of those who read it!

Instead of being critical about yourself you could always try to learn.

 

[Jim]

A spitwad fight? Seriously?

 

[Subduction Zone]

A spitwad fight? Seriously?

dad refuses to learn and cannot support his claims. He does not even understand the Bible he treats as a god. It is all that is left

 

[Hockeycowboy]

This sort of thinking can lead to the justification of any atrocity. All one has to do is claim God wants it done and buildings come down and kiddies get brained.

Yeah, you’re right, It has been and still being done, isn’t it?
But see, here’s the difference: all of that...the killings that God condoned...was for the protection of the Nation of Israel, from whom the Messiah would come.

Today, there is no particular nation, belonging to Jehovah & requiring His protection. (Some might take issue with this, of course, citing the current country of Israel.)

So what are Christians commanded by Jesus to do? ‘To love their brothers’, and even ‘love their enemy.’
This alone would preclude any killing. — 1 John 3:10-15

Take care.

What if you believe God is telling you they are the enemy?

We know we’ll have enemies...Jesus said the world would hate his followers, right? But we are not their enemies....

There is nothing a Christian should believe he / she should do, if it contradicts the guidelines given for Christians. Displaying hatred for people, is not following Jesus’ command.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

How is that even possible?

What do you mean?
Remember, my beliefs differ greatly from mainstream Christianity!

You mean, how do I see my beliefs as reconciling with reality?

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Of course it always seems to. That is kind of the
point of what I've said about ignorance and self deception.

I was wondering if someone would take the bait. I purposefully wrote that “Seems to.”

And you took issue with it, revealing a negative tone.

Take your words and apply it to this:

“All life on Earth evolved from a single-celled organism that lived roughly 3.5 billion years ago, a new study seems to confirm.”

All Species Evolved From Single Cell, Study Finds

But, to you, this is fact, huh?


“Of course it always seems to. That is kind of the
point of what I've said about ignorance and self-deception.”

There are so many “seems to” in papers supporting evolution!