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Evolution My ToE

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
All men are slaves. He sets us free. Whether you work at Walmart, or a sweatshop, or the military, or etc. The slave owners were just as much slaves as the slaves! It was their slavery to Satan and sin that caused the owners to have slaves in the first place. They needed to be freed as much (at least) as their slaves.
All men are not slaves. Earning wages at Wal-Mart is not the same thing as being bought and sold as a piece of property. Stop with the false equivocation nonsense.
Why can't you just admit that the owning of human beings as property is immoral?

But again I ask, where in the Bible does the God you worship condemn slavery as an immoral practice?
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
I had to read the post you were responding to.
It's one thing to say what science does. It's another, to not acknowledge what science does not do, but what scientists say, and do.
Science doesn't say or do, what scientists say, or do, when it isn't based on proper methods of science, rather than beliefs.
That's the way this situation looks to me.
I read your posts. As much as I can, given the incomprehensible structure you seem to purposefully use.

Your positions are anti-intellectual.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Considering it somewhat similar to responding to a parrot, I have lost interest in responding to his posts. One could stop reading them for months and restart without having missed anything.

"dad's" posting is based on the same principle as Trump's. You just keep saying the same fiction (no matter how outrageous it is) over and over again in an effort to harass others or to convince themselves it is true or both.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
"dad's" posting is based on the same principle as Trump's. You just keep saying the same fiction (no matter how outrageous it is) over and over again in an effort to harass others or to convince themselves it is true or both.
The origin of that technique is pretty well known and does not come from the Bible. I wonder if either of them know that. They probably wouldn't care if they did.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Apparently Nature cares about as much as God(s) does. ;)
Hmm, what I find interesting under the circumstances is that some people do care for others. Or feel sorry for themselves. I guess you must think that concern is naturally induced by genetic evolution.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
The evidence you seek already exists.

So instead of relying on other people to educate you, why not go and find some scientific information on the subject matter and educate yourself? That's what a person who is really interested in understanding reality would do. That's how I learned what evolution actually is, and isn't.
The conception of a child and realizing in part how it came about is reason enough to believe in a superior intelligence enabling life.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
The conception of a child and realizing in part how it came about is reason enough to believe in a superior intelligence enabling life.
Why? We have a very good understanding of the biology of conception and the underlying natural processes guiding it. There is no evidence anywhere in what we know to suggest more than natural processes. Human conception is pretty much the same process seen in fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds and other mammals. The exceptions being internal and external fertilization, egg retention or external gestation, and altricial or precotial offspring/parental investment.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
Hmm, what I find interesting under the circumstances is that some people do care for others. Or feel sorry for themselves. I guess you must think that concern is naturally induced by genetic evolution.
Some behavior is evolved and some is a n indirect consequence of that evolution.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
The Bible exists because people wrote it to explain and understand the world and their beliefs. My point was that the book as a physical object is not alive.

The random musings on heavy rotation by a parrot have nothing to do with that point.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
It seems your god created a world that inevitably leads to wickedness (even when he tries to repeatedly fix it), and then blames us for it.
So this god is not only immoral, but inept as well. "Salvation" will be yet another attempt in a long line of failed attempts for this god to remove wickedness from the world. I'm sure he won't bungle that up too. ;)
Would you say that evolution is responsible for wickedness?
 

dad

Undefeated
Why? We have a very good understanding of the biology of conception and the underlying natural processes guiding it. .
? Oh? So why does a cell split and replicate? What made the forces such as nuclear weak and strong forces? Why does the information in DNA exist? What makes a baby form from genetic material? Why do babies have different personalities? Why do women have eggs? Why is there a desire to procreate?
 
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