Evolution My ToE

[dad]

The Bible exists because people wrote it to explain and understand the world and their beliefs. .

Unsupportable claim.

 

[McBell]

Unsupportable claim.

Kettle, meet pot

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Kettle, meet pot

Now he thinks people didn't write the Bible or that it is not an attempt to explain things. Very strange.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Unsupportable claim.

It's the only supportable claim there is here.

We have no evidence of any supernatural beings.
We have no evidence that any supernatural beings have written any books. Ever.

We know human beings write books. We have evidence of human beings writing books. We know human beings look for explanations to better understand the world around them.

 

[SkepticThinker]

No. There are God's people, Satan's peeps. That is not one big happy family. That is the war of the worlds.

Unsupported claim.

There is a collective reality that we all share, whether you want to admit to it, or not.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Hmm, what I find interesting under the circumstances is that some people do care for others. Or feel sorry for themselves. I guess you must think that concern is naturally induced by genetic evolution.

Okay, so you're changing the subject so you don't have to explain why it seems as though God doesn't care about suffering?

Many humans do care about alleviating suffering, yes. That's because humans can experience suffering and therefore can empathize with others who are suffering. Not all humans of course, some are sociopaths.

 

[SkepticThinker]

The conception of a child and realizing in part how it came about is reason enough to believe in a superior intelligence enabling life.

Sorry, what?

The conception of a child takes place between two people (or in a test tube, in some cases). It requires no input from any god(s) whatsoever.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Would you say that evolution is responsible for wickedness?

I'd love to know why you can't ever just address the point and/or answer questions being posed to you.

I'm not sure what you mean by "wickedness" or what you mean by evolution being responsible for it.

But I really wish you'd just address the point for once.
It seems every time I ask a question about the characteristics of your god, you just want to change the subject to something else.

 

[dad]

Kettle, meet pot

No. Claims of supernatural aspects of life are not physical science and need no support of the kind claims science claims demand/require!

 

[dad]

It's the only supportable claim there is here.

Then support it!

We have no evidence of any supernatural beings.

We do. Your cult does not. Most men of all ages believe in spirits and for good reasons.

We have no evidence that any supernatural beings have written any books. Ever.

The bible is evidenced six ways from Sunday. In people's lives, fulfilled Prophesy, miracles etc.

We know human beings write books. We have evidence of human beings writing books. We know human beings look for explanations to better understand the world around them.

What you cannot see is the spirts influencing the books, good or bad! So do not claim there is no inspiration, it is above the paygrade of science. (they don't even realize much of the demonic doctrines they pump out are demon inspired)

 

[dad]

Unsupported claim.

There is a collective reality that we all share, whether you want to admit to it, or not.

False. You demo that! Many do not share your beliefs or views.

 

[Bear Wild]

Would you say that evolution is responsible for wickedness?

The process of evolution created humans and all life on earth. Why would you call that wicked.

 

[Bear Wild]

We do. Your cult does not. Most men of all ages believe in spirits and for good reasons.

This is delusional but what would I expect from you. You have no understanding of the would you live in.

The bible is evidenced six ways from Sunday. In people's lives, fulfilled Prophesy, miracles etc.

Six ways from Sunday? this as usual makes no sense but at least it is consistent with your posts. Name me one miracle that is more amazing than photosynthesis itself. No god needed.

What you cannot see is the spirts influencing the books, good or bad! So do not claim there is no inspiration, it is above the paygrade of science. (they don't even realize much of the demonic doctrines they pump out are demon inspired)

All inspiration comes from the natural world except for your demonic posts. It must be the demonic spirits in your mind that cause you to say the things you do.

 

[dad]

This is delusional but what would I expect from you. You have no understanding of the would you live in.

Deny it if you like, but most people on earth always have believed in some sort of spiritual reality. They still do.

Six ways from Sunday? this as usual makes no sense but at least it is consistent with your posts. Name me one miracle that is more amazing than photosynthesis itself. No god needed.

You thought that photosynthesis was not a miracle?? Ha.

The sun is a miracle, the way the sun now exists in this nature is a miracle, the way the forces of nature control how atoms work is a miracle. The way plants balance the air we breathe is a miracle. The way God put them here for us to eat is a miracle. Etc. Just because you figure out some portion of some part of how God set up some things in this time period, does not mean they are not a miracle! Even your brain that allows this is a miracle!

All inspiration comes from the natural world

Hilarious. Prove it?

except for your demonic posts.

I have not a devil, and I know who my Father is, unlike you apparently.

It must be the demonic spirits in your mind that cause you to say the things you do.

You seem conflicted, now you believe in spirits?!

 

[Subduction Zone]

The bible is evidenced six ways from Sunday. In people's lives, fulfilled Prophesy, miracles etc.

If one looks at these claims rationally they fall apart. Let's start with prophecies. To judge whether a prophesy is fulfilled or not one needs reliable standards. Does that not make sense to you?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You thought that photosynthesis was not a miracle?? Ha.

The sun is a miracle, the way the sun now exists in this nature is a miracle, the way the forces of nature control how atoms work is a miracle. The way plants balance the air we breathe is a miracle. The way God put them here for us to eat is a miracle. Etc. Just because you figure out some portion of some part of how God set up some things in this time period, does not mean they are not a miracle! Even your brain that allows this is a miracle!

What makes these miracles? This sounds like an argument from ignorance. You do realize that both photosynthesis and how the Sun works are well understood these days, don't you? No miracles needed.

But let's focus on prophecies first.

 

[Bear Wild]

Deny it if you like, but most people on earth always have believed in some sort of spiritual reality. They still do.

Doesn't change the reality of our world that you reject.

The sun is a miracle, the way the sun now exists in this nature is a miracle, the way the forces of nature control how atoms work is a miracle. The way plants balance the air we breathe is a miracle. The way God put them here for us to eat is a miracle. Etc. Just because you figure out some portion of some part of how God set up some things in this time period, does not mean they are not a miracle! Even your brain that allows this is a miracle!

All of nature is a miracle of the natural world created by the natural world' you just but god in it because you are so dependent on a father figure to take care of you and wanting to feel more important. Evolution was the process that gave us everything we are. God had nothing to do with it. Time to grow out of your fantasy if you can. Its not to late.

Hilarious. Prove it?

Don't need to it since is all self-evident and even you absolute need to believe in a god is predicted. Parents are nurturing and we are genetically and psychologically connected to the nurturing bond. No surprising that humans create a god so similar to a father figure. As always all explained in evolutionary theory. You cannot disprove it and you know it.

 

[Bear Wild]

I have not a devil, and I know who my Father is, unlike you apparently.

Your responses certainty indicate you do. That devil deceives you from the true natural world. Hope you grow out of it.

You seem conflicted, now you believe in spirits?!

The mental spirits in your mind which keep you from knowing the world. Not real and self created in your mind.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The Bible exists because people wrote it to explain and understand the world and their beliefs. My point was that the book as a physical object is not alive.

The random musings on heavy rotation by a parrot have nothing to do with that point.

My claim is about a book and is not a science claim. it is logical.

All known books were written by people. The Bible is an explanation of the world and about belief in God. I can't believe someone would make a ridiculous claim that these statements are unsupported.

That some people have to bear false witness to support their contorted views is no surprise to me. They don't call Satan the dad of lies for nothing.

 

[YoursTrue]

The process of evolution created humans and all life on earth. Why would you call that wicked.

If you think it's bad for God to have suffering on earth, obviously you can't blame it on evolution, since it has no feelings, or guided intelligent thinking rationale for its outcome. Only those that you would say evolved have feelings and perform wickedly, I suppose you could think.