Evolution not God

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But of that, basic morality is to pay taxes to help support those in need. You have to decide which is more important, your money or to pay taxes that helps those in need? If charity alone could handle it, that would ve all fine & dandy, but history has shown us that it can't.

Mark 12[16] So they brought it, and He asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?” “Caesar’s,” they answered. 17Then Jesus told them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” And they marveled at Him."

I don't believe taxes help poor people. And I think there is better ways to help poor people. Giving ceasar what is ceasar's, is not same as you must pay taxes. I think it means, get rid of money that is ceasar's and live free.

 

[1213]

Numbers 31:17-18 "Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

Why only the virgin girls? Not exactly a mystery.

I think the idea of sex slaves comes from readers dirty mind, because there is nothing in the Bible that indicates such.

 

[metis]

I don't believe taxes help poor people. And I think there is better ways to help poor people.

As mentioned, many times before, that was tried to a couple of centuries under laissez faire capitalism, and it never worked! Did you ever study world history? How about the Great Depression?

Giving ceasar what is ceasar's, is not same as you must pay taxes. I think it means, get rid of money that is ceasar's and live free.

Complete nonsense, as they were talking about taxes, not to get rid of money. Seems that your money is really where your heart really is.

 

[Kenny]

Numbers 31:17-18 "Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

Why only the virgin girls? Not exactly a mystery.

??? To the pure all things are pure. Is your understanding the only possibility?

 

[Audie]

I don't believe taxes help poor people. And I think there is better ways to help poor people. Giving ceasar what is ceasar's, is not same as you must pay taxes. I think it means, get rid of money that is ceasar's and live free.

I wish you would make an effort to think
something through before posting it.

Of course taxes don't help the poor.
Neither does electricity.

Tax MONEY, though, is used in various ways
to help the needy.
I tax myself, giving money to beggars.
Clothes food shelter medical care cost MONE.Y

IF you have better ideas than using money to
help the poor, by all means tell us.

A line from the bible you don't even understand,
but plainly isn't about helping the poor does not help.

 

[Audie]

I think the idea of sex slaves comes from readers dirty mind, because there is nothing in the Bible that indicates such.

Now that my non friend is a thoroughly
disgusting and trashy thing to say.

I am the one who called it sex slavery.
You accusing me of being a perv who gets
off, thinking of other girls being harmed?

Say it straight out, to me by name! Or are you going to slink away, afraid to stand by your own words?

Afraid to acknowledge what the book you prize about what the " god" you claim to worship really has in that book.
Pretending it doesn't mean sex slavery because those words are not spevificly used is like saying Jesus didn't have to go behind a bush and relieve himself because it's never mentioned.


Slink away is what I predict.

 

[Kenny]

As mentioned, many times before, that was tried to a couple of centuries under laissez faire capitalism, and it never worked! Did you ever study world history? How about the Great Depression?

Complete nonsense, as they were talking about taxes, not to get rid of money. Seems that your money is really where your heart really is.

But that is just one type of capitalism. Just as socialism was tried before and it never work. But there is capitalism with a heart.

 

[Kenny]

I wish you would make an effort to think
something through before posting it.

Of course taxes don't help the poor.
Neither does electricity.

Tax MONEY, though, is used in various ways
to help the needy.
I tax myself, giving money to beggars.
Clothes food shelter medical care cost MONE.Y

IF you have better ideas than using money to
help the poor, by all means tell us.

A line from the bible you don't even understand,
but plainly isn't about helping the poor does not help.

Not feeding a lazy man is another way to help?

 

[Audie]

I think the idea of sex slaves comes from readers dirty mind, because there is nothing in the Bible that indicates such.

For those who don't know how to think I will picture for them the scene:

With God's instructions and blessing, an
army attacks a small community.

Keep in mind that warfare in the day was simply
armed robbery on a large scale- as it still is today.

So- after some days of attacking the fortifications
they finally break in.

Imagine the terror of the townspeople, innocent of any harm, hour by hour as the attack goes on.
Knowing they are doomed. Take a few minutes to
try in your safe home, what that is like?

THEN! The wall is broken, the roar of the
battle as the outnumbered men desperately try to
save their families.

It's no use, each and all are hacked to pieces.
The screams, the blood! God ordered it: its groovy.

Then the search, the sacking of the town.
No bar to,a door cab withstand them!

Blood splattered men, huge and terrible in their
Armour and weapons burst in! You, a boy child
clothing your mother. You are both chopped down as you stand.

Now you are a 14 yr old girl. You and your sister are seized, dragged from the corner where you
huddled in terror beyond any you, gentle reader,
will ever know.

And do the kind gentlemen who came to call ask,
" pardon me ma'am, but God directed me to
inquire of you, have you known yet a man?"

Or can you see the unwritten words that tell you
they were seized and roughly stripped for inspection.

Your sister has her throat cut, arterial blood
spurting from her neck as she is thrown aside.

Your turn. You are unlucky, and pass inspection.

You really really believe all this is good righteous moral and just- I scarce began to describe the horrors-and was ordered by the God of perfect love and righteousness?

Or that the girls are not part of the gosds looted from the town now in,flames and inhabited only by the dead?

What exactly do you think is the purpose for specifying "virgins only" other than that they
would bring the nest price when sold along with the rest of the loot?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Not feeding a lazy man is another way to help?

Yeah, all poor men are lazy. As long as you were in part lucky in the draw of a life and you consider it so , that you have earned that, because you are a good Christian, we will never agree.

 

[Kenny]

Yeah, all poor men are lazy. As long as you were in part lucky in the draw of a life and you consider it so , that you have earned that, because you are a good Christian, we will never agree.

I spoke about subject "a" and then you add "a= b-z" - why did you do that?

Did I say all men are lazy? Are you saying there are no men who rather have things given to them rather than having to work for them and work the system?

PS... I also disagree with your statement I have helped poor men who work hard.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I spoke about subject "a" and then you add "a= b-z" - why did you do that?

Did I say all men are lazy? Are you saying there are no men who rather have things given to them rather than having to work for them and work the system?

Well, in Danish we have a quote from a famous playwriter. They say Jeppe(male name) drinks, but they don't say why Jeppe drinks?

The problem with your example is that I fit one version of lazy, because I can't work.
It goes like this:
Fact: I can't work. Fact: Therefore I am lazy. The problem is that the first one is a fact, but not the second one.

 

[Kenny]

Well, in Danish we have a quote from a famous playwriter. They say Jeppe(male name) drinks, but they don't say why Jeppe drinks?

The problem with your example is that I fit one version of lazy, because I can't work.
It goes like this:
Fact: I can't work. Fact: Therefore I am lazy. The problem is that the first one is a fact, but not the second one.

Except that isn't what I said or meant.

If "I can't work" - it isn't "lazy". We house a family of 9 living in a van. He worked hard but were homeless and were poor. We helped him and today just received help to live in a 4 bedroom house. (We let them sleep in one of the rooms of our church for 5 months).

But when an able body man can't even apply for a dishwashing position or a cleaning position or any other job even when there are "help wanted" everywhere and doesn't want to with just "can't you just give me some money?"... don't let him eat. (we have had those lazy men too) A good motivator.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Except that isn't what I said or meant.

If "I can't work" - it isn't "lazy". We house a family of 9 living in a van. He worked hard but were homeless and were poor. We helped him and today just received help to live in a 4 bedroom house. (We let them sleep in one of the rooms of our church for 5 months).

But when an able body man can't even apply for a dishwashing position or a cleaning position or any other job even when there are "help wanted" everywhere and doesn't want to with just "can't you just give me some money?"... don't let him eat. A good motivator.

How do you know that he is able body and mind?
It could be telling that you only mention body and not mind.

 

[Kenny]

How do you know that he is able body and mind?
It could be telling that you only mention body and mind.

Because we aren't that superficial.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Because we aren't that superficial.

I edited it for an error. Any new comment?

 

[Kenny]

I edited it for an error. Any new comment?

Let me expand...

We have a process which includes a holistic approach that even includes all types of counseling (free), budget review, situations that precipitated current situation, et al.

Our position, "we are here to help"! But when the answer is "I can't really make that phone call or go to that session but could you give me some food and gas money after they went to the last two churches and got the money there?" when they have a car and no job to stop them from going to the session?

It's called "professional system workers". Experience has taught us to let them fall until they really give you their hand. Once their heart is in their hand, they can progress and then you have success.

 

[Jose Fly]

I think the idea of sex slaves comes from readers dirty mind, because there is nothing in the Bible that indicates such.

Fairly typical fundamentalist response....."I don't see how taking only young virgin girls as spoils of war = sexual slavery." Yet another reason why I've never been a Christian.

 

[Jose Fly]

??? To the pure all things are pure. Is your understanding the only possibility?

Are only virgin girls "pure"? Virgin boys aren't? Why exactly do you think they took only the virgin girls as spoils of war?

 

[Kenny]

Are only virgin girls "pure"? Virgin boys aren't? Why exactly do you think they took only the virgin girls as spoils of war?

Did you ever historically look at the customs of the people at the time and what could possibly be another issue beyond thinking the un-pure thoughts?