Evolution of Human

[FearGod]

The act of building a nest is probably learnt, the act of nesting is instinctual. Do you understand the difference or do you need further explanation?

Learnt by whom, now take 2 pairs of birds that didn't watch or learn how to build a nest, do you think they couldn't build the nest because they didn't watch or learn.

 

[idav]

You know birds can learn to talk too?

 

[idav]

Learnt by whom, now take 2 pairs of birds that didn't watch or learn how to build a nest, do you think they couldn't build the nest because they didn't watch or learn.

Babies learn from adults. Can you prove birds can't learn to build nests? Whether it is ingrained or learned still supports evolution.

 

[FearGod]

Babies learn from adults. Can you prove birds can't learn to build nests? Whether it is ingrained or learned still supports evolution.

Ingrained doesn't support intelligence.

 

[idav]

Ingrained doesn't support intelligence.

If the alphabet was memorized by your DNA it is still displaying intelligence for you to recall the alphabet. Yes learning is a form of intelligence, taking new information as opposed to information that already exists. Again it still supports evolution, more so because it proves evolution can learn without needing intelligent consciousness.

 

[FearGod]

If the alphabet was memorized by your DNA it is still displaying intelligence for you to recall the alphabet. Yes learning is a form of intelligence, taking new information as opposed to information that already exists. Again it still supports evolution, more so because it proves evolution can learn without needing intelligent consciousness.

How it is kind of intelligence if it is already memorized by the DNA.

Now if a man was attracted to a woman and wanted to have sex with her, now is it kind of intelligence that his penis erects.does it happen due to learning and knowledge.

 

[fantome profane]

How it is kind of intelligence if it is already memorized by the DNA.

Now if a man was attracted to a woman and wanted to have sex with her, now is it kind of intelligence that his penis erects.does it happen due to learning and knowledge.

If my penis were intelligent my life would have been so very very different.

 

[FearGod]

If my penis were intelligent my life would have been so very very different.

Causing troubles.

 

[ScuzManiac]

Does that mean that birds had tried in the beginning to sit on their eggs for one day and it doesn't work then they tried for 2 days till the 21 days worked.

If you took 2 pairs of birds that they never saw birds sitting on their eggs, do you think then they'll make the method of trial and error to have their chicks born.

Who said that it always took 21 days?

And if you were cold, how long would it take you to figure out that you can wrap up to reduce the cold?

Or would you have to see someone else do it?

You have a very poor argument on your end. Admit it and move on.

 

[FearGod]

Who said that it always took 21 days?

And if you were cold, how long would it take you to figure out that you can wrap up to reduce the cold?

Or would you have to see someone else do it?

You have a very poor argument on your end. Admit it and move on.

So it isn't due to learning and not programmed to be so.

What is it ?
Natural process,right

 

[idav]

How it is kind of intelligence if it is already memorized by the DNA.

Now if a man was attracted to a woman and wanted to have sex with her, now is it kind of intelligence that his penis erects.does it happen due to learning and knowledge.

Recalling something from memory, even already learned, displays intelligence.

Your straw mans just don't make any sense as to what your point is. Both natural instinct and intelligent learning support evolution.

 

[ScuzManiac]

So it isn't due to learning and not programmed to be so.

What is it ?
Natural process,right

Why did you ignore my question?

Would someone have to teach you or could you learn? How long would it take?

 

[FearGod]

Recalling something from memory, even already learned, displays intelligence.

Your straw mans just don't make any sense as to what your point is. Both natural instinct and intelligent learning support evolution.

Where did we mention memory ?

What is the relation between nesting for birds and erection for men and memory ?
Would you please explain your point.

 

[idav]

Where did we mention memory ?

What is the relation between nesting for birds and erection for men and memory ?
Would you please explain your point.

I have said my points. That the source of knowledge doesn't take away from the intelligence it talks to use the knowledge.

Those two things aren't even remotely similar. Whats your point?

Can you see a similarity in a bird building a nest and humans building a hammock. They take knowledge and intelligence even in you never had to learn it. How long before human babies know that they can stack sticks?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Babies learn from adults. Can you prove birds can't learn to build nests? Whether it is ingrained or learned still supports evolution.

And young adults learn from older adults.

 

[idav]

And young adults learn from older adults.

Yes and apparently we are dumb cause birds don't even have to learn.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

From what I have read some dinosaurs (the ancestors of the avians) used to lay their eggs in the sand and bury them and would leave them to go feed and come back to check on them and protect them. But that left their eggs vulnerable to predators. But some dinosaurs would stay with their eggs in order to protect them while their mate with to gather food, these dinosaurs had a much better chance of survival and passes on their alleles. Nesting sites also changed, instead of laying them in the ground, some dinosaurs would nest in high places like rocky crags and such and eventually our good friends the feathered dinosaurs would nest in trees.

It's pretty simple stuff, I don't understand how anyone can seriously dispute how nesting developed.

 

[metis]

With paleontologists more and more believing that probably most of the dinosaurs were warm-blooded, body heat would help and shorten the incubation period, thus encouraging more nesting. I wonder if this was how the first omelettes came about?

 

[idav]

From what I have read some dinosaurs (the ancestors of the avians) used to lay their eggs in the sand and bury them and would leave them to go feed and come back to check on them and protect them. But that left their eggs vulnerable to predators. But some dinosaurs would stay with their eggs in order to protect them while their mate with to gather food, these dinosaurs had a much better chance of survival and passes on their alleles. Nesting sites also changed, instead of laying them in the ground, some dinosaurs would nest in high places like rocky crags and such and eventually our good friends the feathered dinosaurs would nest in trees.

It's pretty simple stuff, I don't understand how anyone can seriously dispute how nesting developed.

Feargod is insisting that birds did not learn to nest it is instinct, which frankly is a win for evolution either way.

 

[Sapiens]

Yup, the instinct had to come from somewhere ... do you think it might have <gasp> evolved?