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Evolution of Human

outhouse

Atheistically
My thread isn't about who is God or which religion is the right one,but what make sense to me and maybe to other theists that this universe should have a creator,regardless of who is that creator.

Yet there is ZERO evidence for such :slap:
 

SoulDaemon

Member
Skincolor, height, lung capacity, size of brain, size of heart, etc.

Ex. (Cold, less sun) Inuits are fairly small and quite light skinned people, giving away less body heat and skin doesn't protect against UV-radiation so good.

Ex. (Hot, sunny) Africans are bigger and have darker skin. Giving away excess body heat and skin protects from UV-radiation better.

Of course we can train ourselves and manipulate the surroundings to thrive, but evolution is going on anyways.

Calling it what you want doesn't change facts.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
That is not credible evidence.


You have nothing at all, not even one of the holy books backs your personal opinion.


Your claims are empty and void.

Yes of course,guidance is offered by God for whom he chooses according to one's deeds.

It isn't my personal opinion as i don't like philosophy,it is God words in the book which i believe in,you call it a myth but i call it the truth.

And if We had so willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me concerning evildoers took effect: that I will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together.(32:13)
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
It isn't my personal opinion as i don't like philosophy,it is God words in the book which i believe in,you call it a myth but i call it the truth.
I think the word "myth" has gotten a bad rep.

Myth is truth. Truth hidden in a story. The story isn't a true story necessarily, but the message behind the story is a truth.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think the word "myth" has gotten a bad rep.

Myth is truth. Truth hidden in a story. The story isn't a true story necessarily, but the message behind the story is a truth.

... such as used by Joseph Campbell in "The Power of Myth".
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
... such as used by Joseph Campbell in "The Power of Myth".

Yup. Exactly. I prefer his view of the word "myth". A myth has value. A myth is not just an entertaining story, book, or movie. It carries with it something that will change a person. That's the intent with a myth. IMO.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Refute this. Evolution is now fact.

This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts
about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Refute this. Evolution is now fact.

This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts
about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.

Why i have to refute it.

I believe in evolution that occurred due to God's will,whereas you believe it happened by nature,which is inanimate.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I believe in evolution that occurred due to God's will,whereas you believe it happened by nature,which is inanimate.

Yet you have ZERO evidence for such.

You only have a unsubstantiated opinion and nothing more.


Not one holy book backs your position.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Yet you have ZERO evidence for such.

You only have a unsubstantiated opinion and nothing more.


Not one holy book backs your position.

Dead things do not beget the living.

And God did breath a soul into Adam.
so I've read.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
And then you have me, who believes they're the same thing. :p

No,they can't be the same.
Nature is inanimate and unconscious,how the inanimate can produce life.

Have not those who disbelieve seen how Heaven and Earth were once one solid mass which We ripped apart? We have made every living thing out of water. Will they still not believe? 21:30
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
No,they can't be the same.
Nature is inanimate and unconscious,how the inanimate can produce life.
But you are biological, from "inanimate" objects. By the way, there are no "inanimate" things in this world. Not even the particles or quarks are ever still. They're always moving.

Tell me, where did you cells come from? You got your whole body from God in a mailbox or something? Did you know that your body is made out of billions of cells, and each cell comes from a division of previous cells that took sugar, protein, iron, carbon, etc, and made those cells from "inanimate" objects. Every cell you have consist of molecules that are made from fundamental elements, physical "inanimate" elements. That's what you are. And I am too. This body grew by "eating" dead animals, dead plants, dead water, dead vitamins. It's not alive because I ate living things. Most things I ate were dead and did not wiggle or move on my plate when I ate it.

So please tell me know, where did You get Your body since you think it doesn't come from inanimate things.

And when it comes to consciousness, can you answer at exact time and place when God gave you your consciousness? When did it enter your body?

Have not those who disbelieve seen how Heaven and Earth were once one solid mass which We ripped apart? We have made every living thing out of water. Will they still not believe? 21:30
I do believe... that the world is alive. You believe it's dead and only God is alive. I believe the world is alive and is God.
 
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