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Evolution of what?

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I believe the creation accounts are teaching narratives to likely counter the Babylonian creation narrative, thus not meant to be taken literally.

Chimps and humans are animals.
Which leads me to the question, I hope you don't mind. Do you believe there is a Creator with intelligence? (A supreme being...that we as humans cannoit see.) I do.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
you are literally responding to a post that demonstrates the opposite.
It depends how a person looks at it. And no, I do not agree with you because the account does not contradict chapter 1 of Genesis if that's what you're referring to. But have a nice day.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
First of all, it says that Adam was placed in the Garden. Beyond what the Bible says, I have no idea how he was placed and it is not for me to figure out now. Maybe I will learn more about that in the future. But it is clear to me that Adam was able to eat as he desired in that Garden. And that there was food available for him.
So what happened to Eve if Adam is in the garden and she is not?
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
So you love God and believe in God but not the same way I do. Thanks for answering my question.
I do not follow the Abrahamic God at all. My religion is polytheistic. The problem is you are missing the wisdom of your own myth. You are confusing the wisdom and truth of your myth with trying to make it into factual evidence of this world. When people try to place literal meaning on the myths of their religion they missing their meaning.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
People should really stop pretending that the "golden rule", which the "love your neighbor" part is just a variation on, is exclusive to christianity or even original to christianity. It isn't.

The golden rule, in its many variations, is to one extend or another a part of every single human culture / society as far back as we can see all over the world.
Such a rule is just an obvious expression of what it means to live in, and be a part of, a social group of which the survival and prosperity literally depends on some form of cooperation.
The xian claim to ownership of "golden rule"
is so offenive. Tempered only by the ignorance of
the " enlightened" who dont know any better.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I do not follow the Abrahamic God at all. My religion is polytheistic. The problem is you are missing the wisdom of your own myth. You are confusing the wisdom and truth of your myth with trying to make it into factual evidence of this world. When people try to place literal meaning on the myths of their religion they missing their meaning.
OK, I do not believe everything. I believe the Bible. And I believe from the Bible that a better world is coming. Speaking of a "new heaven and a new earth," 2 Peter 3:13 - But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells." Yup, looking forward to that day. Have a good one.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
OK, I do not believe everything. I believe the Bible. And I believe from the Bible that a better world is coming. Speaking of a "new heaven and a new earth," 2 Peter 3:13 - But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells." Yup, looking forward to that day. Have a good one.
So you are avoiding the truth of the myth in the bible? You would rather falsely apply it to the physical reality of our world instead of understanding its true meaning? You then falsely apply it as actual evidence of our physical world?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
So you are avoiding the truth of the myth in the bible? You would rather falsely apply it to the physical reality of our world instead of understanding its true meaning? You then falsely apply it as actual evidence of our physical world?
Actually, there are many who claim to follow the "Abrahamic God" but simply and absolutely do not agree or believe what the other religion/sect teaches about it. Or even what their own documents say. Thanks. You take care.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
So you are avoiding the truth of the myth in the bible? You would rather falsely apply it to the physical reality of our world instead of understanding its true meaning? You then falsely apply it as actual evidence of our physical world?
Nope and nope. But your thinking is not my thinking. And have a nice day.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I do not follow the Abrahamic God at all. My religion is polytheistic. The problem is you are missing the wisdom of your own myth. You are confusing the wisdom and truth of your myth with trying to make it into factual evidence of this world. When people try to place literal meaning on the myths of their religion they missing their meaning.
You answered me while I was answering Metis. That's ok. And obviously people's viewpoints about who or what God is differ.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Sorry by the way if I do not have time to read every post that may be addressed to me. Y'all have a nice day. As time marches on. One way or the other. Whether we're conscious or not conscious. :)
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Actually, there are many who claim to follow the "Abrahamic God" but simply and absolutely do not agree or believe what the other religion/sect teaches about it. Or even what their own documents say. Thanks. You take care.
Again you are avoiding my point. The creation myth in the bible is an important myth of relationality and not a literal documentation of the actual physical events on the earth. Or are you not aware of the important message of the myth?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Again you are avoiding my point. The creation myth in the bible is an important myth of relationality and not a literal documentation of the actual physical events on the earth. Or are you not aware of the important message of the myth?
You and others may believe that, but logically if a person believes it's a myth naturally it nullifies anything else in the Bible. Such as the genealogy of Jesus. No matter they claim to be Christian. Their denial of Scripture by calling the creation mythical necessarily obviates in their line of thought everything else after that.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Again you are avoiding my point. The creation myth in the bible is an important myth of relationality and not a literal documentation of the actual physical events on the earth. Or are you not aware of the important message of the myth?
I'm not avoiding your point. The account of creation is not a myth as I believe it. But if you think so that's what you think and believe or not believe.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
You and others may believe that, but logically if a person believes it's a myth naturally it nullifies anything else in the Bible. Such as the genealogy of Jesus. No matter they claim to be Christian. Their denial of Scripture by calling the creation mythical necessarily obviates in their line of thought everything else after that.

So, Jesus was wrong that his Two Commandments based on love is what is essential for a Christian? Where's your "third commandment" found that says Christians must also believe in your interpretations to be saved?

Matthew 22[34]But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sad'ducees, they came together.
[35] And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him.
[36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend
all the law and the prophets."
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
So, Jesus was wrong that his Two Commandments based on love is what is essential for a Christian? Where's your "third commandment" found that says Christians must also believe in your interpretations to be saved?

Matthew 22[34]But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sad'ducees, they came together.
[35] And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him.
[36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend
all the law and the prophets."
Explain if you believe that Jesus existed via the genealogy from Adam. I'll go into the law and commandments later if possible.
 
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