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Evolution of what?

McBell

Unbound
You and others may believe that, but logically if a person believes it's a myth naturally it nullifies anything else in the Bible. Such as the genealogy of Jesus. No matter they claim to be Christian. Their denial of Scripture by calling the creation mythical necessarily obviates in their line of thought everything else after that.
I was wondering how long before you started relying on the false dilemma fallacy.
I wonder if you are even aware that you reveal your reliance on logic fallacies to maintain your beliefs.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
So, Jesus was wrong that his Two Commandments based on love is what is essential for a Christian? Where's your "third commandment" found that says Christians must also believe in your interpretations to be saved?

Matthew 22[34]But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sad'ducees, they came together.
[35] And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him.
[36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend
all the law and the prophets."
Ask @Subduction Zone about love and good and evil, ok?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Then do the latter as I'm not going to allow a diversion from what I posted.
No diversion. Either Jesus existed as the Bible says or he did not. I do suggest you define what love is as you think Jesus may have said it. Do you actually believe Jesus said those words anyway. No diversion.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You're not answering my question, so all you are attempting is a diversion.

So, are you going to answer my question or not?
Not at all. I'm wondering what's do hard about answering if you believe Jesus said those words and if what the Bible says about his genealogy is true.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
No diversion. Either Jesus existed as the Bible says or he did not. I do suggest you define what love is as you think Jesus may have said it. Do you actually believe Jesus said those words anyway. No diversion.

Since you're just playing a disingenuous game, I'm done. You are being dishonest and are unwilling to even address the simple question asked of you. I'll give you one more chance, and if you play this game again, you'll more than qualify to be ignored by me. Jesus taught about the need for honesty, and you're not even willing to do that.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Since you're just playing a disingenuous game, I'm done. You are being dishonest and are unwilling to even address the simple question asked of you. I'll give you one more chance, and if you play this game again, you'll more than qualify to be ignored by me. Jesus taught about the need for honesty, and you're not even willing to do that.
You may be done. As far as what Jesus taught, do you believe he was in the line of descent from Adam? You know what is meanr...the mythological figure many say he is?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I was wondering how long before you started relying on the false dilemma fallacy.
I wonder if you are even aware that you reveal your reliance on logic fallacies to maintain your beliefs.
Ask others if they believe who claim to be Christian here if they believe the biblical account of Jesus and if they think he said what they say he said. Thanks.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
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Again you are avoiding my point. The creation myth in the bible is an important myth of relationality and not a literal documentation of the actual physical events on the earth. Or are you not aware of the important message of the myth?
I believe the Bible. You really need to ask others who say they are Christian but believe the account about Adam is mythical and see if they also believe Jesus was in the genealogical descent from what they claim is a mythical figure. Ask them because I do not believe the account of creation and Adam and Eve are myths. Then ask if they believe Jesus existed as written. Or if that was mythical too. :)
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
No

@metis et al...no point for me to discuss this if one believes that Jesus did not utter those words.
There's no point to discuss this here if there is no relation to the OP question.
Are you aware that a literal interpretation of the bible clashes hard with reality (especially with that what we know about reality through the ToE)?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
If those words are worth anything at all, they'd be meaningful no matter who uttered them.
There's more to it. Because Jesus said at Matthew 22:37, "You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.'
Which God? Who was he speaking to?
 
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McBell

Unbound
there you go...

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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
If there was any truth to your above post you would not be here not discussing it it all.
yet here you are discussing how you are not going to discuss it with anyone but choir members.
Not true. But anyway -- take care.
 
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