Evolution of what?

[McBell]

Not true. But anyway -- take care.

What is not true about it?

 

[McBell]

that's fine. (whatever you believe, that's the key, right?)

according to you.
But with your track record....

 

[Bthoth]

Again, the point is that if one professes belief in Jesus but believes in evolution, then he of course cannot believe in creation and the making of Adam. And Eve. And then going on through the Bible genealogically to Jesus would not add up.

That is being quite judgmental. Against jesus!

Many can love the lessons of torah/bible but not compliant to what you just wrote.

 

[YoursTrue]

Well, considering that in the story, he's talking to the Pharisees, he wouldn't make much headway with them unless he was talking about YHWH - it seems unlikely that the Pharisees would acknowledge any others...

Yes.
(P.S.) But -- do you think Jesus could have been referring to other gods anyway? Not that he agreed with everything the Pharisees taught.

 

[YoursTrue]

That is being quite judgmental. Against jesus!

Many can love the lessons of torah/bible but not compliant to what you just wrote.

I'm going to repeat what I said, naturally you don't have to agree. The Bible says Adam was the human from whom all mankind came after that.

 

[YoursTrue]

according to you.
But with your track record....

Please excuse if I do not respond to your posts regularly. And remember -- have a good evening.

 

[McBell]

Please excuse if I do not respond to your posts regularly. And remember -- have a good evening.

With the way you avoid the truth, I take your avoidance and deflection as compliments.

 

[YoursTrue]

That is being quite judgmental. Against jesus!

Many can love the lessons of torah/bible but not compliant to what you just wrote.

How is it against Jesus to believe the Bible? Notice what Jesus said at Matthew 24:14 (New Living Translation)
"And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come."

 

[YoursTrue]

With the way you avoid the truth, I take your avoidance and deflection as compliments.

lol, I probably shouldn't answer that but you made me laugh there...(have a good one...)

 

[McBell]

lol, I probably shouldn't answer that but you made me laugh there...(have a good one...)

The truth can set you free.

the thing is, you have to at least look at it.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Again, the point is that if one professes belief in Jesus but believes in evolution, then he of course cannot believe in creation and the making of Adam. And Eve. And then going on through the Bible genealogically to Jesus would not add up.

Not Luke's,but Matthew's still works.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yes.
(P.S.) But -- do you think Jesus could have been referring to other gods anyway? Not that he agreed with everything the Pharisees taught.

Certainly. He could have referring to a God that neither the Pharisees nor we had ever had any experience with.

 

[Audie]

The Bible makes sense to me. I believe I recognize you do not. It says that God created the heavens and the earth. It also says that God made Adam and Eve, the first human parents, that includes the one born to Mary, Jesus. (and you and me) I realize you don't believe that.

It doesnt make sense.
But it gives simple answers.
And-
It has the terrif advantage that it makes
you able to understand more about science
than any edudcated person on earth- with
no effort at all.
And it put you on the pedestal of true christianhood.

What, though, is the price you pay?
Any idea?

 

[metis]

You may be done. As far as what Jesus taught, do you believe he was in the line of descent from Adam? You know what is meanr...the mythological figure many say he is?

I'm done with your game. However...

Vaya con Dios.

 

[YoursTrue]

Not Luke's,but Matthew's still works.

To be discussed perhaps later, there are questions, yes that's true, but the main point now being that IF Jesus is a product of evolution and is an animal/ape and not a human by divine creation and biblical standards, everything in between the account of Adam and Eve's creation and Revelation is nullified. By logic. Therefore, for a person to quote what Jesus said and then not be able to back up the rest of the Bible as true and then not say if he believes Jesus as written actually existed puts everything else in the Bible and the Law and how Jesus summed up the Law in (more than) question. So -- I am going to do some research into the Law of Moses and get back to this.

 

[YoursTrue]

Certainly. He could have referring to a God that neither the Pharisees nor we had ever had any experience with.

Jesus did say at John 17:3 -- "And this is the way to have eternal life—to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth." How do you understand that?

 

[TLK Valentine]

To be discussed perhaps later, there are questions, yes that's true, but the main point now being that IF Jesus is a product of evolution and is an animal/ape and not a human by divine creation and biblical standards, everything in between the account of Adam and Eve's creation and Revelation is nullified. By logic.

Not sure what "logic" you're using here, but's let's proceed...

Allow me to ask a follow-up question, based on the assumption that you're correct:

So what if its "nullified"?

Therefore, for a person to quote what Jesus said and then not be able to back up the rest of the Bible as true and then not say if he believes Jesus as written actually existed puts everything else in the Bible and the Law and how Jesus summed up the Law in (more than) question. So -- I am going to do some research into the Law of Moses and get back to this.

You do that and then we can discuss my "so what?" question...

 

[TLK Valentine]

Jesus did say at John 17:3 -- "And this is the way to have eternal life—to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth." How do you understand that?

What's so complicated? Jesus is speaking to his God (who may or may not be the god that the Pharisees or we are familiar with) to help him finish the job he was put on Earth to do.

 

[YoursTrue]

What's so complicated? Jesus is speaking to his God (who may or may not be the god that the Pharisees or we are familiar with) to help him finish the job he was put on Earth to do.

Consider that Jesus said that no one can go to the Father except through him. He also said the path is narrow and few would be on it but many would be on the broad path leading to destruction. Also many believe in virtually the total process of evolution and profess to be believers in God.

 

[YoursTrue]

@TLK Valentine Let's see . If the Bible is nullified in reality because of the idea of evolution and it is inconsistent with what the Bible says and someone believes in the process of evolution rather than what the Bible says there is nothing further to discuss. Logically, that is. IMO. We can decide. So...not so what...but then whatever happens happens. Have a good day..