Evolution theory turns colleges into hellholes of depression

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

Carbon is created in supernova explosions by a process called Nucleosynthesis. All the Heavy elements are created that way. The Universe didn't start out fully formed or is it now and what is a fully formed universe to begin with? It has always been evolving.

Which means ofcourse that you are saying the universe had to have started out with 0.

But....you know absolutely nothing about how decisionmaking works, so why should I listen to you? What is worse is that you are willfully ignorant about how decisionmaking works. Your attitude about it is no good.

 

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

On these stars who "choose" how small the sun is to the other stars? How does that process work?

I explained some of the rules already, the other rule is that the totality of the universe can only be 0, limiting the options which can be chosen.

 

[Midnight Rain]

I explained some of the rules already, the other rule is that the totality of the universe can only be 0, limiting the options which can be chosen.

How did you come up with the totality of the universe being 0? And 0 amounts of "what" if I may ask?

 

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

How did you come up with the totality of the universe being 0? And 0 amounts of "what" if I may ask?

That's a theory of Peter Rowlands, who is evolutionist afaik. The theory states that the universe is accurately and exhaustively described with mathematics ordered by 0. Which means that the symbols in mathematics correspond with physical things in the universe 1 to 1, a copy.

 

[Kirran]

That's a theory of Peter Rowlands, who is evolutionist afaik. The theory states that the universe is accurately and exhaustively described with mathematics ordered by 0. Which means that the symbols in mathematics correspond with physical things in the universe 1 to 1, a copy.

I feel like this doesn't add to this particular discussion.

 

[Midnight Rain]

That's a theory of Peter Rowlands, who is evolutionist afaik. The theory states that the universe is accurately and exhaustively described with mathematics ordered by 0. Which means that the symbols in mathematics correspond with physical things in the universe 1 to 1, a copy.

I have done some surface research on the topic and his explanations seem to be more of a mathmatical design based around 0 rather than revealing some kind of fundamental truth to the universe. I can guarantee you right now we do not have 0 mass or energy in the universe.

 

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

I feel like this doesn't add to this particular discussion.

Sure it does. We will see it is evolution theory which destroys any and all knowledge about decisions made. Whether it is for the earth to be creayed or not, or to cross the Rubicon or not, evolution theory destroys all knowledge about decisions made.

 

[shawn001]

I explained some of the rules already, the other rule is that the totality of the universe can only be 0, limiting the options which can be chosen.

Your not answering the question I asked about the size of the stars?

You calling people ignorant is pretty funny.

 

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

Your not answering the question I asked about the size of the stars?

You calling people ignorant is pretty funny.

And what would you call somebody who has no clue about how things are chosen in the universe?

 

[Kirran]

And what would you call somebody who has no clue about how things are chosen in the universe?

That's your unsubstantiated allegation.

 

[Midnight Rain]

And what would you call somebody who has no clue about how things are chosen in the universe?

What do we call someone who claims that everything in the universe is chosen when there is no evidence of such a mechanism?

 

[Kirran]

What do we call someone who claims that everything in the universe is chosen when there is no evidence of such a mechanism?

What do you call someone who turns somebody's turned-around questions back on them again?

This game could go on for a while

 

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

What do we call someone who claims that everything in the universe is chosen when there is no evidence of such a mechanism?

There is lots of evidence that things can turn out several different ways.

You don't understand choosing, you deny it, then this intellectual denial encroaches on your common understanding in daily life, and plays havoc with your subjectivity.

You don't have an understanding of who somebody is as being the owner of their decisions.

 

[Kirran]

There is lots of evidence that things can turn out several different ways.

Provide some?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But....you know absolutely nothing about how decisionmaking works, so why should I listen to you?

What are your credentials for knowing yourself? You keep talking about "common sense," but this common sense you defend claims we only use about 10% of our brain, and there are several several medical conditions, especially psychological, that common sense has misdefined and misapplied.
What about decisions that really aren't made, but are made for people? No one chooses to live in poverty and an impoverished neighborhood, yet millions of children grow up in such neighborhoods and this puts them at a massive predisposition towards certain "choices." What of things when there is no choice involved, but just being at the right place and time when something happens?

 

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

Provide some?

That's besides the point, I only have to show evolution theory destroys all knowledge about how things are chosen.

 

[Kirran]

That's besides the point, I only have to show evolution theory destroys all knowledge about how things are chosen.

Then provide evidence for that. Find some evidence that somebody aside from yourself, who's done a decent amount of study in this area, has asserted this.

 

[Midnight Rain]

There is lots of evidence that things can turn out several different ways.

You don't understand choosing, you deny it, then this intellectual denial encroaches on your common understanding in daily life, and plays havoc with your subjectivity.

You don't have an understanding of who somebody is as being the owner of their decisions.

I have already had this conversation with you before. There is no evidence that physical events dictated by physical forces are "chosen". Beyond that we have complex interactions and sentience. I think that I have the ability to choose my own actions though even this is highly limited. On the chemical level I do not think there is any "choice" to be had. There is personal responsibility and choice but the earth does not choose to go round the sun.

 

[Mohammad Nur Syamsu]

I have already had this conversation with you before. There is no evidence that physical events dictated by physical forces are "chosen". Beyond that we have complex interactions and sentience. I think that I have the ability to choose my own actions though even this is highly limited. On the chemical level I do not think there is any "choice" to be had. There is personal responsibility and choice but the earth does not choose to go round the sun.

In your normal day to day life you are required to find decisions, to function as a human being.

What's this sort of attitude that "there is no evidence of decisions" going to do to your resolve to find any decisions? How is that going to affect your subjectivity?

The result is not going to be good, now is it. How in the world can you regard any decision you or anybody else makes as a serious issue, when you see no evidence of decisions taking place whatsoever?

It doesn't make any sense, it is just intellectual game playing, with your soul.

 

[Midnight Rain]

In your normal day to day life you are required to find decisions, to function as a human being.

What's this sort of attitude that "there is no evidence of decisions" going to do to your resolve to find any decisions? How is that going to affect your subjectivity?

The result is not going to be good, now is it. How in the world can you regard any decision you or anybody else makes as a serious issue, when you see no evidence of decisions taking place whatsoever?

It doesn't make any sense, it is just intellectual game playing, with your soul.

If I drop a quarter and it falls to the ground. Who chose the rate at which it fell after .3 seconds with our gravity here on earth? If it is the product of choice that is subject to change why can I calculate that? What you fail to understand ist he fact that we have sentience and that we have the potential ability to "choose" because of our cognitive awareness, does not equate to everything being able to be chosen. In fact in every force and instance that is not fundamentally ruled by a sentient being of some sort would automatically be beyond "choice".

How does a rock choose anything?