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Evolution theory turns colleges into hellholes of depression

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
Au contraire, bruderherz....I perform choosing regularly, & I often do it subjectively.
I even go both ways....subjective and objective.
Armed with bijective choosing ability, the truth becomes obvious to me.
If we put it up to a vote, you'd see that other posters side with me.
Popular opinion is the standard for discerning truth, you know.

I cannot see any value in what you write.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I am just spreading the news of the evils of evolution theory, and warning people not to associate with Harvard university, as it is a hellhole of depression.


Few here believe that evolution is evil.
Those intelligent enough and with the necessary qualifications to be offered a place to study at Harvard, are unlikely to listen to your fundamentalist driven Ideas.
It is not a question of faith. Or Belief in God, as many of us do, as do not, have religious faith.
It is more a question of understanding the difference between myth and factual science, and how to recognise one from the other in a religious context.
Creationist theory is clearly in the Myth category.
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
There is no species of men called evolutionists. A large majority of rational men agree about the science of evolution.

If you investigate further it is shown that all these supposedly rational men and women have no idea about how choosing works. Those are the same people who make the wiki on free will into the mess of contradictory points of view that it is today. I don't think the label rational applies to these people.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
This thread is like a train that derailed and killed millions of kitties. I don't want to stare, but I can't look away, lol!
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
There is no species of men called evolutionists. A large majority of rational men agree about the science of evolution. They are likely to attack nothing except ignorance in all its forms.

Emotions are real enough to the person experiencing them, However they are not a proof of anything except to themselves. They have no place in an educational establishment, except perhaps as a subject for study.

Emotions have no place in Harvard, that is their apparent credo, which is why it is a hellhole of depression.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Emotions have no place in Harvard, that is their apparent credo, which is why it is a hellhole of depression.
No, the problem is that Harvard is riddled with over-emotional believers.
Try as they might, even the magnanimous atheists there have been
unable to help the religiously impaired find peace & happiness.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Emotions have no place in Harvard, that is their apparent credo, which is why it is a hellhole of depression.
There are many emotions in Harvard. Such as the flood of over entitled brats who go there who think a Harvard education is their golden ticket to everything they want in life, and then many of them find out it didn't take them as far as they thought it would.
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
Anybody who thinks straight will see that the blatant rejection of subjectivity associated to evolution theory is what causes Harvard to be a hellhole of depression

Use common sense.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Anybody who thinks straight will see that the blatant rejection of subjectivity associated to evolution theory is what causes Harvard to be a hellhole of depression

Use common sense.
Anyone who thinks straight will know that evolution and subjectivity have nothing to do with each other, are not related, are not correlated, one does not lead to the other, and that one is not required for the other. Just because you accept evolution, much in how you accept gravity, does not mean you become a robot, it doesn't mean you loose your emotions and feelings, it doesn't mean you loose your imagination, and it doesn't mean you loose all subjective thoughts. It just very simple means you accept a well established scientific theory, nothing more, nothing less.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Anybody who thinks straight will see that the blatant rejection of subjectivity associated to evolution theory is what causes Harvard to be a hellhole of depression

Use common sense.
I think you might be the only person on earth who thinks the way you do about this subject, and I don't think there is a more incorrect way of describing it than "thinking straight".
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
Anyone who thinks straight will know that evolution and subjectivity have nothing to do with each other, are not related, are not correlated, one does not lead to the other, and that one is not required for the other. Just because you accept evolution, much in how you accept gravity, does not mean you become a robot, it doesn't mean you loose your emotions and feelings, it doesn't mean you loose your imagination, and it doesn't mean you loose all subjective thoughts. It just very simple means you accept a well established scientific theory, nothing more, nothing less.

What you say is nonsense. How subjectivity functions is in regards to the agency of decisions. Subjectivity has to fit with science, it has to fit as a real thing in the universe, a real phenomenon, and yet obviously subjectivity cannot be science. That is the problem of subjectivity. And only creationism provides the solution to how subjectivity functions, which is the 2 domains of creator and creation, the agency of a decision, and the result of a decision. Only that way can subjectivity be validated. Which means to be subjective requires to acknowledge the fact that freedom is real, that things in the universe are chosen. And evolutionists go out of their way to deny all choosing, including even to deny that people make choices. They go out of their way to deny subjectivity is valid.

The concept of the human soul is not some arbitrary invention. A product of random religious fantasy. The soul chooses, and therefore the existence of the soul must be a matter of opinion. Only by making agency of a decision a subjective issue can the concept of choosing function. The concept of the soul is an appropiate subjective term. Then come the evolutionists, who demand objectivity for everything. Who destroy systematically each and every subjective term. And everybody knows this sort of pervasive atmosphere of blatant brutalizing of emotions, of jadedness about all things subjective, that hangs around evolutionists. That overriding devotion to fact on the intellectual level to the exclusion of the expression of any emotion to form an unapologetic opinion, as categorically distinct from fact. An opinion which says something about reality, like that God is real, or that the human soul is real. Subjectivity that actually matters and is not focused on artsy fartsy.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And only creationism provides the solution to how subjectivity functions,
I am an artist. This means I have a pretty good understanding of subjectivity. I am not a creationist, yet I immerse myself in subjectivity on a regular and daily basis.
And evolutionists go out of their way to deny all choosing, including even to deny that people make choices.
Accepting evolution does not make you a hard determinist. Yes, there are people who do believe in that, but there are also those who believe in total free-will and those, like me, who see that while many things are beyond our control, we do make many choices every day.
 

Mohammad Nur Syamsu

Well-Known Member
I am an artist. This means I have a pretty good understanding of subjectivity. I am not a creationist, yet I immerse myself in subjectivity on a regular and daily basis.

Accepting evolution does not make you a hard determinist. Yes, there are people who do believe in that, but there are also those who believe in total free-will and those, like me, who see that while many things are beyond our control, we do make many choices every day.

And so why are you then in categorical denial that freedom may be relevant in the universe at large? You just say the word choice, it means nothing, evolutionists don't conceive of choosing in the common and creationist sense of the word. They conceive of choosing as a sorting algorithm like natural selection. With a sorting algorithm the result depends on the data to sort, and the sorting criteria. It cannot turn out several different ways, it is forced to turn out the way it does given the parameters. That is what evolutionists call choosing, it has the logic of being forced.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
What you say is nonsense. How subjectivity functions is in regards to the agency of decisions. Subjectivity has to fit with science, it has to fit as a real thing in the universe, a real phenomenon, and yet obviously subjectivity cannot be science.

Hypothesis are subjective views thus science includes subjectivity. However in order to conclude if this subjective opinion is correct ideas are tested by objective methods. It is the very reason for experimentation and review. Read Kuhn and Popper.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
There is no problem in what I write. You are wrong, they are wrong. The truth is that evolution theory is destroying subjectivity, which would naturally lead to an increase in depression.
But your islamic theory turns the lives a paradise and this is the truth? hahahahhashahaha
 
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