EVOLUTION, what a lie.

[DarkSun]

i dissagree for both religious and non religious reasons. my religious background tells me how things work and the non religious background verifies it. i can't dissprove evolution just by saying, the quran says so, now can i?

You might as well. It would be just as effective, to be honest.

 

[Gharib]

actually the problem here is the fact that you can not/will not accept that you are just plain flat out wrong.

You talk in circles and have even flat out stated that you will ignore everything you disagree with.

So the real question is why should anyone even try to educate you when you are more than content with your ignorance?

you really lack comprehension abilities mestemia.

i only said i would ignore the reply of that person who doesn't understand what i've said (my example). and you not only failed to understand my example but you failed in the deparment of undrstanding. do i really need to reply any much more to your posts?

 

[McBell]

you really lack comprehension abilities mestemia.

i only said i would ignore the reply of that person who doesn't understand what i've said (my example). and you not only failed to understand my example but you failed in the deparment of undrstanding. do i really need to reply any much more to your posts?

ROTFLMAO

If you have to ignore everyone perhaps the problem is you.....

But of course that cannot be it...:sarcastic

 

[Gharib]

Transition between dinosaur and bird was also relatively gradual. And a wing doesn't always have to be intended for flying, you know? A small-ish dinosaur may have needed to climb trees to excape a predator, so natural selection would have dictated that its arms became more suited for this. After a couple of thousand generations, perhaps these arms also doubled up as a means of jumping into the air (By pushing air downward, or gliding upward), to then grab onto a tree. And perhaps everything else happened from there.

those changes evolution speaks of would make any animal more vulnerable and more weak. you see the one thing i find interesting about the ideas put forward by evolution is that it says this happened first, then this, then that etc etc when infact we all know thats not right. but yet eveyone accept them blindly just because a scientist says so.

show me proof from the fossil record of a dinosaur evolving into a bird. now don't go posting some animated pictures that show HOW IT MAY HAVE HAPPENED, but show me a number of real fossils that clearly show the different statges or change. if you can do that i will never ever say evolution is not real and will never ever speak about evolution again.

 

[Gharib]

ROTFLMAO

If you have to ignore everyone perhaps the problem is you.....

But of course that cannot be it...:sarcastic

who said i have to ignore eveyone, i do know for sure that everyone isn't like you. thats why i am expecting an actual satisfactory answer but not from you OK.

 

[McBell]

who said i have to ignore eveyone, i do know for sure that everyone isn't like you. thats why i am expecting an actual satisfactory answer but not from you OK.

a satisfactory answer?

And what would be a "satisfactory" answer to you?
You have set your mind in stone about evolution, so any "discussion" on the topic is nothing more than a test of the patience of whomever you are "discussing" evolution with.

 

[DarkSun]

those changes evolution speaks of would make any animal more vulnerable and more weak. you see the one thing i find interesting about the ideas put forward by evolution is that it says this happened first, then this, then that etc etc when infact we all know thats not right. but yet eveyone accept them blindly just because a scientist says so.

If they made the animal more vulnerable and more weak, then they would be more likely to die out. This obviously wasn't the case, so...

show me proof from the fossil record of a dinosaur evolving into a bird. now don't go posting some animated pictures that show HOW IT MAY HAVE HAPPENED, but show me a number of real fossils that clearly show the different statges or change. if you can do that i will never ever say evolution is not real and will never ever speak about evolution again.

I've already done that. You did read my post, didn't you?

 

[DarkSun]

 

[Gharib]

a satisfactory answer?

And what would be a "satisfactory" answer to you?
You have set your mind in stone about evolution, so any "discussion" on the topic is nothing more than a test of the patience of whomever you are "discussing" evolution with.

why is it always like this with you :slap:

tell you what, i will make my question to you again and lets see how you are going to answer.

if evolution and natural selection was true (real) then humans, according to the laws of natural selection, would have died out at the very first second they became fully human. but the fact that humans exist disproves evolution and the mechanism of natural selection.

your turn sweatheart.

 

[Gharib]

is that your 'proof' concerning my question? please delete your post before i take a look at it for a third time.

 

[Autodidact]

although i do not accept anything you guys have presented, not they they aren't facts, but they do not support evolution, i think we should move coz if we continued with this further you guys aren't going to accept what i have to say.

Let me get this. You say:
Evolution is not true because X.
We say: X is not true.
And you don't think that supports evolution?

so i have another question, evolution says living matter formed from non living matter, can i see some examples thanks.

No, it doesn't. In fact, this theory that you despise, do you have the slightest clue what it says? Because it has nothing to do with how living matter formed. Nothing. You're making an idiot of yourself.

So do you think Biologists are particularly stupid, or just all scientists in general?

 

[McBell]

if evolution and natural selection was true (real) then humans, according to the laws of natural selection, would have died out at the very first second they became fully human. but the fact that humans exist disproves evolution and the mechanism of natural selection.

my turn for what?

You have not supported your STATEMENT above with anything other than "I say so".

So please be so kind as to explain how how your statement above has any merit.

 

[Autodidact]

if they were this stupid, i would consider them smart due to their efforts, but unfortunately they are worse.

So that would be yes, your assumption is that all the Biologists with all the Ph.ds in all the biology departments in all the universities in the world are stupid?

What about geologists, are they stupid also?
Physicists?
Chemists?
Scientists in general? Really, really, dumb? So dumb you can refute one of their leading theories without the remotest notion what it says? On what do you base this generalization?

 

[Autodidact]

where have i said that i don't understand evolution?

. You haven't. You actually think you do understand it. But your posts make it clear that you have no idea.

and just so you know theories are very easy to refute, facts however aren't.

And just so you know you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Autodidact]

you guys are contradicting Darwins theory. his first book was called the origin of species so evolution does speak how life came to be. but i take it from your answers that there is no answer. wasn't all that surprising cheers.

No. You are so ignorant you don't even know how much you don't know. You know so little it's hard to know where to start.

To begin with, shut off the noise in your head and listen, you might learn something. O.K., done that? Great. The book was called The Origin of Species, not The Origin of LIfe. It's about how we get so many different species. It says nothing about how life started. But then, since you haven't read anything but the title, and didn't even understand that, you have no way of knowing that.

I repeat: the only thing you're showing us is how ignorant you are. Do you want to stay ignorant, or do you want to learn what the Theory of Evolution (ToE) actually says?

 

[Autodidact]

gravity is not like evolution. gravity is both fact and theory. evolution is just an unprovable theory put forward by an amateur

Evolution is a fact and a theory, one of the best supported theories in the history of science, by one of the greatest scientists of all time. In fact, the ToE is much better supported than the Theory of Gravity. btw, I bet you have no idea what the Theory of Gravity is either, do you?

 

[Autodidact]

what evidence the ones thay show one species immediately change into another all of a sudden. yeah i know about those, thats what makes evolution fake.

No, since ToE says this will never happen, it supports it. But since you have no idea what ToE actually says, you have no way of knowing that.

Here's a wild idea: Before trying to destroy ToE, how about if you find out what it says? Seems like it might be more effective, don't you think?

 

[Gharib]

Let me get this. You say:
Evolution is not true because X.
We say: X is not true.
And you don't think that supports evolution?

you didn't read my post carefully, i agree with what you guys are saying, but such little evidence is no where near enough sufficient to support such a great theory. so it fails once again. the only mutations you or anyone else can offer are in the bacteria, is bacteria the only thing evolution speaks about? NO, so in order for evolution to be true there must be millions of cases of beneficial mutations in just about all areas of evolution.

No, it doesn't. In fact, this theory that you despise, do you have the slightest clue what it says? Because it has nothing to do with how living matter formed. Nothing. You're making an idiot of yourself.

So do you think Biologists are particularly stupid, or just all scientists in general?

thats not what Darwin sugested. i am afraid evolutionists may have changed the theory over time and have thrown out parts of it that were unsupported by logic and reality, for example the origin of life and of the species.

no i only recon all evolution scientists are stupid (no offence to anyone), the rest of the scientists are doing a great job in their fields of expertise.

 

[Autodidact]

that was a very nice story, but unfortunately it fails.

let me explain:
humans have the ability to think ok, we can use our brain. the very fact that humans exist and are the most powerful creatures on earth disproves evolution and that natural selection stroy.

NO, actually it confirms that.

now before you or anyone else replies to this, i would suggest you think very hard about what i've said. i want you and everyone else to answer me Why would i say that our existence dissproves evolution?

Because you're so ignorant that you don't have any idea what evolution is, or how we know that humans evolved.

anyone who answers unsatisfactory i will not consider their posts. thats why i suggest that those who want to reply to this post should think hard about what i've said and what their reply is going to be.

Think hard about this: Why would I care what you do or don't do?

 

[Autodidact]

aha, so how can a bird/dinosaur creature that has a primitive lung exist?

Why not?

or anyother creature for that matter. and the fossil record shows sudden changes, not over time.

1. NO it doesn't.
2. That's funny. That's the thing you just said has never happened. As soon as you contradict yourself, you lose. FAIL