I do not believe you see at all, sorry to say. I think you are intelligent and cordial, but when it comes to trying to disprove the deity of Jesus Christ,
Show me where I've tried to do that?
And bear in mind I'm asking you to
show me, not
tell me, or say "it seemed like you were saying. . ."
This is the internet, everything we say is right there where anyone can quote it as it is.
many of your talents and integrity (to a point) are left behind. You and they have no legitimate objections or reasons to maintain doubt to particular documented miracle claims or more importantly to all of the other historical and reasons for Christianity.
Other than the 142 pages of legitimate objections that you've failed to refute in this thread you mean?
Consequently, these exchanges tend to spiral downward from that.
You're being shown things you'd rather not see.
That's where that spiraling downward feeling is coming from.
I will not worry about it, and it appears you will not either.
Actually, as far as I'm concerned these threads are mostly for the audience. As I mentioned earlier one of the main things that made me look outside of Christianity for answers was the hypocrisy, the intentional and perpetual communal self-deception about so many things (and not just doctrine or dogma), the paranoia, and the misanthropic world view that I saw as an actual codified and sanctioned attitude among it's followers.
All that along with the evasion, aversion, and ultimately angry indignation I got in response to sincere questions.
I've always believed that real faith should be a living, growing, organic aspect of a sincere seekers psychology. The Faith I saw within the walls of most of the churches I went into, being demonstrated by most of the people there, was a dead, stagnant, meaningless mockery of all that.
I'm hoping that when someone comes into RF looking for something the way I was looking for answers and understanding in the pre-cyber world, they'll have as wide a selection of ideas and ideologies as possible, and hopefully they'll be able to make some determinations about those ideas and ideologies based on the the typical behaviors and habits of the people presenting and defending them.
I consider it an axiom that Truth doesn't need to be defended with dissembling, or evasion, or propaganda, or really, any tactics at all, and that if we see anyone resorting to those tactics, it's a safe bet that whatever they're selling, it isn't truth.