Exodus Archeology Evidence

[gnostic]

The story of straw and bricks precedes the Ramesside stories of plagues.

It would be pertinent to remember "Exodus" is the Greek/Latin translation of the Hebrew scripture for the "Book of Names".

(A) The Exodus isn’t history. It cannot even name a single Egyptian pharaoh by name, because who ever wrote the Exodus, don't have any real knowledge of the Egyptian history, because it was written a lot later than the setting of the narrative (Exodus).​

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(B) In Exodus 1, it say there were 2 cities being build at the same time, during the time of Moses' birth: Rameses and Pithom.​

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The problem here, determining which of the cities it meant. The other problem is when these 2 cities existed, like when it was constructed.​

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The Exodus Pithom have been identified with Pi-Tem, which means the "House of Atum", with Tem being the name of the creator god and sun-god Atum, with Old Kingdom Heliopolis (actual Egyptian name being Iunu). This city Pi-Tem was actually constructed during the 16th century BCE (c 1650 - c 1550 BCE), either during the 15th dynasty.​

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The Exodus Rameses is actually known as Pi-Ramesses, constructed during the early 19th dynasty, by Seti I (1290 - 1279 BCE) and his son Ramesses II (1279 - 1213 BCE). Seti named after his father, the founder of the 19th dynasty, Ramesses I (1292 - 1290 BCE). Pi-Ramesses was completed around 1250 BCE.​

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Do the maths, GoodAttention. Pi-Tem (Pithom) and Pi-Ramesses were not built at the same time, not even in the same dynasty (15th dynasty & 19th dynasty), at the very least, 300 years apart!!!​

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When Pi-Tem was built, Pi-Ramesses didn't even exist, not in another 300 years.​

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(C) According to the timeline of Exodus and Joshua, Rameses was being built around the time of Moses' birth, the fall of Jericho occurred 120 years later, after Moses' death.​

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But archaeologically, Jericho was abandoned around 1570 BCE, while the real Rameses - Pi-Ramesses - was built about 300 years later, around 1250 BCE.​

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Pi-Ramesses was completed by around 1250 BCE, while Jericho was abandoned around 1570 BCE; that’s a gap of 320 years. The Exodus and Joshua have in the order of Rameses first, Jericho afterwards, with a gap of less than 120 years.​

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(D) There were no reported plagues in the reign of Ramesses II.​

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(E) There were no reported mass liberation of slaves, and no mass exodus out of Egypt, during the reign of Ramesses II.​

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Sorry, GoodAttention. Not only Egyptian records don't support the Exodus narrative, nor do archaeological evidence: Moses didn't exist, nor Joshua, nor the invasion of Canaan, the timeline are wrong.

 

[Audie]

(A) The Exodus isn’t history. It cannot even name a single Egyptian pharaoh by name, because who ever wrote the Exodus, don't have any real knowledge of the Egyptian history, because it was written a lot later than the setting of the narrative (Exodus).​

​

(B) In Exodus 1, it say there were 2 cities being build at the same time, during the time of Moses' birth: Rameses and Pithom.​

​

The problem here, determining which of the cities it meant. The other problem is when these 2 cities existed, like when it was constructed.​

​

The Exodus Pithom have been identified with Pi-Tem, which means the "House of Atum", with Tem being the name of the creator god and sun-god Atum, with Old Kingdom Heliopolis (actual Egyptian name being Iunu). This city Pi-Tem was actually constructed during the 16th century BCE (c 1650 - c 1550 BCE), either during the 15th dynasty.​

​

The Exodus Rameses is actually known as Pi-Ramesses, constructed during the early 19th dynasty, by Seti I (1290 - 1279 BCE) and his son Ramesses II (1279 - 1213 BCE). Seti named after his father, the founder of the 19th dynasty, Ramesses I (1292 - 1290 BCE). Pi-Ramesses was completed around 1250 BCE.​

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Do the maths, GoodAttention. Pi-Tem (Pithom) and Pi-Ramesses were not built at the same time, not even in the same dynasty (15th dynasty & 19th dynasty), at the very least, 300 years apart!!!​

​

When Pi-Tem was built, Pi-Ramesses didn't even exist, not in another 300 years.​

​

(C) According to the timeline of Exodus and Joshua, Rameses was being built around the time of Moses' birth, the fall of Jericho occurred 120 years later, after Moses' death.​

​

But archaeologically, Jericho was abandoned around 1570 BCE, while the real Rameses - Pi-Ramesses - was built about 300 years later, around 1250 BCE.​

​

Pi-Ramesses was completed by around 1250 BCE, while Jericho was abandoned around 1570 BCE; that’s a gap of 320 years. The Exodus and Joshua have in the order of Rameses first, Jericho afterwards, with a gap of less than 120 years.​

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(D) There were no reported plagues in the reign of Ramesses II.​

​

(E) There were no reported mass liberation of slaves, and no mass exodus out of Egypt, during the reign of Ramesses II.​

​

Sorry, GoodAttention. Not only Egyptian records don't support the Exodus narrative, nor do archaeological evidence: Moses didn't exist, nor Joshua, nor the invasion of Canaan, the timeline are wrong.

Good intro to the comprehensive list

 

[GoodAttention]

(A) The Exodus isn’t history. It cannot even name a single Egyptian pharaoh by name, because who ever wrote the Exodus, don't have any real knowledge of the Egyptian history, because it was written a lot later than the setting of the narrative (Exodus).​

​

(B) In Exodus 1, it say there were 2 cities being build at the same time, during the time of Moses' birth: Rameses and Pithom.​

​

The problem here, determining which of the cities it meant. The other problem is when these 2 cities existed, like when it was constructed.​

​

The Exodus Pithom have been identified with Pi-Tem, which means the "House of Atum", with Tem being the name of the creator god and sun-god Atum, with Old Kingdom Heliopolis (actual Egyptian name being Iunu). This city Pi-Tem was actually constructed during the 16th century BCE (c 1650 - c 1550 BCE), either during the 15th dynasty.​

​

The Exodus Rameses is actually known as Pi-Ramesses, constructed during the early 19th dynasty, by Seti I (1290 - 1279 BCE) and his son Ramesses II (1279 - 1213 BCE). Seti named after his father, the founder of the 19th dynasty, Ramesses I (1292 - 1290 BCE). Pi-Ramesses was completed around 1250 BCE.​

​

Do the maths, GoodAttention. Pi-Tem (Pithom) and Pi-Ramesses were not built at the same time, not even in the same dynasty (15th dynasty & 19th dynasty), at the very least, 300 years apart!!!​

​

When Pi-Tem was built, Pi-Ramesses didn't even exist, not in another 300 years.​

​

(C) According to the timeline of Exodus and Joshua, Rameses was being built around the time of Moses' birth, the fall of Jericho occurred 120 years later, after Moses' death.​

​

But archaeologically, Jericho was abandoned around 1570 BCE, while the real Rameses - Pi-Ramesses - was built about 300 years later, around 1250 BCE.​

​

Pi-Ramesses was completed by around 1250 BCE, while Jericho was abandoned around 1570 BCE; that’s a gap of 320 years. The Exodus and Joshua have in the order of Rameses first, Jericho afterwards, with a gap of less than 120 years.​

​

(D) There were no reported plagues in the reign of Ramesses II.​

​

(E) There were no reported mass liberation of slaves, and no mass exodus out of Egypt, during the reign of Ramesses II.​

​

Sorry, GoodAttention. Not only Egyptian records don't support the Exodus narrative, nor do archaeological evidence: Moses didn't exist, nor Joshua, nor the invasion of Canaan, the timeline are wrong.

You are reading the scripture as if it has a linear timeline.

It doesn’t.

There is more to the story that isn’t appreciated IF you only look at the years and numbers being mentioned.

It is clear NAMES, as referred to in Hebrew has significance, and hence why the Greek/Latin “Exodus” loses its meaning completely.

Unfortunately the scriptures then require a “non-literal” interpretation BUT what is clear is the numerical counting to determine a specific date for when Moses lived is incorrect.

For example, Moses father-in-law’s name changes from one verse to the next, which (to me) is a sign that time has shifted. In the English translations many verses start with “then” or “now”, another sign of times being described going back to the past and then to the present.

 

[GoodAttention]

(A) The Exodus isn’t history. It cannot even name a single Egyptian pharaoh by name, because who ever wrote the Exodus, don't have any real knowledge of the Egyptian history, because it was written a lot later than the setting of the narrative (Exodus).​

​

(B) In Exodus 1, it say there were 2 cities being build at the same time, during the time of Moses' birth: Rameses and Pithom.​

​

The problem here, determining which of the cities it meant. The other problem is when these 2 cities existed, like when it was constructed.​

​

The Exodus Pithom have been identified with Pi-Tem, which means the "House of Atum", with Tem being the name of the creator god and sun-god Atum, with Old Kingdom Heliopolis (actual Egyptian name being Iunu). This city Pi-Tem was actually constructed during the 16th century BCE (c 1650 - c 1550 BCE), either during the 15th dynasty.​

​

The Exodus Rameses is actually known as Pi-Ramesses, constructed during the early 19th dynasty, by Seti I (1290 - 1279 BCE) and his son Ramesses II (1279 - 1213 BCE). Seti named after his father, the founder of the 19th dynasty, Ramesses I (1292 - 1290 BCE). Pi-Ramesses was completed around 1250 BCE.​

​

Do the maths, GoodAttention. Pi-Tem (Pithom) and Pi-Ramesses were not built at the same time, not even in the same dynasty (15th dynasty & 19th dynasty), at the very least, 300 years apart!!!​

​

When Pi-Tem was built, Pi-Ramesses didn't even exist, not in another 300 years.​

​

(C) According to the timeline of Exodus and Joshua, Rameses was being built around the time of Moses' birth, the fall of Jericho occurred 120 years later, after Moses' death.​

​

But archaeologically, Jericho was abandoned around 1570 BCE, while the real Rameses - Pi-Ramesses - was built about 300 years later, around 1250 BCE.​

​

Pi-Ramesses was completed by around 1250 BCE, while Jericho was abandoned around 1570 BCE; that’s a gap of 320 years. The Exodus and Joshua have in the order of Rameses first, Jericho afterwards, with a gap of less than 120 years.​

​

(D) There were no reported plagues in the reign of Ramesses II.​

​

(E) There were no reported mass liberation of slaves, and no mass exodus out of Egypt, during the reign of Ramesses II.​

​

Sorry, GoodAttention. Not only Egyptian records don't support the Exodus narrative, nor do archaeological evidence: Moses didn't exist, nor Joshua, nor the invasion of Canaan, the timeline are wrong.

Your consideration of the Jericho story by Joshua doesn’t make sense?

Why would the story take place in 1570BCE? We know historically it was abandoned for centuries, and even when it was “conquered” by the Israelites led by Joshua it is ambiguous if anyone is living there other than Rahab and her family.

Jericho afterwards makes sense as a “founding victory” for the Israel state.

 

[GoodAttention]

(A) The Exodus isn’t history. It cannot even name a single Egyptian pharaoh by name, because who ever wrote the Exodus, don't have any real knowledge of the Egyptian history, because it was written a lot later than the setting of the narrative (Exodus).​

​

(B) In Exodus 1, it say there were 2 cities being build at the same time, during the time of Moses' birth: Rameses and Pithom.​

​

The Exodus Pithom have been identified with Pi-Tem, which means the "House of Atum", with Tem being the name of the creator god and sun-god Atum, with Old Kingdom Heliopolis (actual Egyptian name being Iunu). This city Pi-Tem was actually constructed during the 16th century BCE (c 1650 - c 1550 BCE), either during the 15th dynasty.​

I believe this is wrong.

Pithom is describing the centre of power, that is the capital city It-Towy, which was established by Amenenhat I circa 1960BCE as the new capital of Ancient Egypt.

This dynasty projected power from here, hence “store-cities” were built up on the direction of the Pharoah from the capital Pithom. Same with Ramesses since the capital name is what is being described.

Cities including Avaris, Xios, and Wah-hut would have been constructed during the time when It-Towy was the capital for the 12th and 13th dynasty, ending circa 1677BCE almost 300 years later.

The scripture 1:8 describes a “King”, which I believe is the 14th dynasty, circa 1700, then reverting back to the “Pharoah” 13th dynasty before the end of It-Towy as a capital.

The verses then mention King twice, describing the start and end of the Hyksos period, and Pharoah also twice, signifying the Egyptian takeover until the Ramasses XI circa 1100BCE.