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I'll keep it all here, back and forth, either right or wrong, watch this and do you study these dates? I thought it was 2,000 BCE and it is. as you @GoodAttention study 1900 BCE., so that will include 2,000 BCE.
I was right
@GoodAttention this is the area dates you study. Because you study 1900 BCE and this is
The 2nd millennium BCE refers to the time period from 2000 BC
The 2nd millennium BCE refers to the time period from
2000 BC to 1001 BC. It was a time of great creativity and international exchange in the eastern Mediterranean and western Asia. Some notable events from this time include:
- The alphabet develops
- The Middle Kingdom of Egypt and Babylonia dominate the first half of the millennium
- The Hittite Empire rises and Mycenaean Greece dominates the Aegean
- The Bronze Age collapses and the Iron Age begins
The 2nd millennium BCE was a time when societies with different cultures and languages connected through the exchange of ideas and objects. This led to the development of new international styles and imagery in art, trade, and diplomacy.
A newer system for expressing time periods is B.C.E. ("Before the Common Era") and C.E. ("Common Era"). This system is used to express the same periods as B.C. and A.D., but without the Christian reference.
Later I learned this isn't the dates that you study @GoodAttention I'll show you my mistakes in this post.
I'm wrong with dates
@GoodAttention I'll leave my mistake here in post anyways.
AI says this about Iron age Israel
The Iron Age in Israel, also known as the Israelite period, lasted from approximately 1200–586 BCE:
- Iron Age I: 1200–1000 BCE
- Iron Age II: 1000–586 BCE
- Iron Age III: 586–539 BCE
The Iron Age in Israel began after the Late Bronze Age Collapse, when iron tools became more widely used. The period is significant for understanding the biblical narrative, as it corresponds to the days of the Judges and the period of the Kings.
Some key events during the Iron Age in Israel include:
- Saul becomes king: Around 1020 BCE, Saul became king of all of Israel after defeating the Ammonites and the Philistines.
- David becomes king: After Saul's death in battle against the Philistines, David succeeded him as king.
- Jerusalem becomes the capital: Around 1000 BCE, Jerusalem became the capital of David's kingdom.
- First Temple is built: Around 960 BCE, King Solomon built the First Temple in Jerusalem.
- Kingdom is divided: Around 930 BCE, the kingdom was divided into Judah and Israel.
- First Temple is destroyed: In 586 BCE, Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, destroyed the First Temple.
Here's my mistake thinking it's 2000 BCE when I was wrong. I'll leave it here any ways so you can see my mistake.
Iron age Israel did they trade with Indus Valley what do you think @GoodAttention that's your dates that you study am I understanding correctly? late second millennium BCE is what date? 2000 BCE is it
@GoodAttention late second millennium BCE is what date? 2000 BCE is it, that's your dates that you deal with, am I understanding correctly?
There's a pdf further down in this post past the first one showing., so it's way down this post., with this date, second millennium BCE, that's what you study. Am I correct @GoodAttention from Avraham Faust at academia. It's further down though in this post.
However it shows in Israel area and not Indus Valley area, but what about trading, would Avraham Faust understand about trading, what do you think @GoodAttention
Iron age Israel did they trade with Indus Valley what do you think @GoodAttention
@Jayhawker Soule the Weavers, Scribes, and Kings website doesn't open up as it says
This site can’t be reached
However the other website opens up and researching I also found at academia
The emergence of Israel in Canaan is perhaps the most debated topic in biblical/Syro-Palestinian archaeology, and related fields. Accordingly, it has received a great deal of attention in recent years, both in scholarly literature and in popular
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Israel’s Ethnogenesis: Settlement, Interaction, Expansion and Resistance
Avraham Faust
The emergence of Israel in Canaan is perhaps the most debated topic in biblical/Syro-Palestinian archaeology, and related fields. Accordingly, it has received a great deal of attention in recent years, both in scholarly literature and in popular publications. Generally speaking, however, the archaeology of ancient Israel is wedged in a paradoxical situation. Despite the large existing database of archaeological finds (from thousands of excavations conducted over an extremely limited area) scholars in this (sub)discipline typically do not engage in “theoretical” (anthropological) discussions, thus exposing a large gap between it and other branches of archaeology, in this respect. Numerous ‘archaeologically oriented’ studies of Israelite ethnicity are still conducted largely in the spirit of the ‘culture history school’, and are absent of thorough reference to the work of more recent critics, which, at best, make a selected appearance in these analyses. Israel’s Ethnogenesis provides an “anthropologically-oriented” perspective to the discussion of Israel’s ethnogenesis. The book traces Israel's emergence in Canaan, and the complex processes of ethnic negotiations and re-negotiations that accompanied it. This monograph incorporates detailed archaeological data and relevant textual sources, within an anthropological framework. Moreover, it contributes to the ‘archaeology of ethnicity’, a field which currently attracts significant attention of archaeologists and anthropologists all over the world. Making use of an unparalleled archaeological database from ancient Israel, this volume has much to offer to the ongoing debate over the nature of ethnicity in general, and to the understudied question of how ethnic groups evolve (ethnogenesis), in particular.
one can contact Avraham Faust there to get more info pdf
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here's another one from Avraham Faust at academia
@GoodAttention late second millennium BCE is what date? 2000 BCE is it, that's your dates that you deal with am I understanding correctly?
The aim of this article is to reexamine the question of Israel's origins within the broader framework of Israel's emergence in the late 2nd millennium BCE. The article first outlines some methodological difficulties involved in this endeavor,
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Avraham Faust
Abstract
The question of Israel’s origins is reexamined within the broader framework
of Israel’s emergence in the late second millennium BCE. Some methodo-
logical difficulties are outlined, and then the author’s view of Israel’s emer-
gence as an ethnic group in the Iron Age is summarized. A more detailed
discussion follows on the possible "origins" of the members of this group, and
especially that of earliest Israel—the group that is mentioned in Merneptah’s
stele. It appears that while many individuals, families, and groups were
involved in the process of Israel’s ethnogenesis throughout the Iron Age,
and that many of those who eventually became Israelites were of Canaanite
origins, the first group was composed mainly of Shasu pastoralists. Other
groups, probably including a small "Exodus" group that left Egypt, joined the
process, and all were gradually assimilated into the growing Israel, accepting
its history, practices and traditions, and contributing some of their own.
Traditions and practices that were useful in the active process of Israel’s
boundary maintenance with other groups were gradually adopted by "all
Israel." It appears that the story of the Exodus from Egypt was one such story.
The Exodus–Conquest narrative(s), which describes the escape of the
Israelites from Egypt, their 40 years’ wandering and their conquest and
settlement in Canaan, has resulted in a plethora of studies that examine the
story as whole, as well as many of its components, in great detail. The present
study touches on this thorny issue by attempting to reconstruct the "origin" of
the Iron Age Israelites in general and that of Merneptah’s Israel in particular,
and by reconstructing the development of Israel as an ethnic group. While
such a study cannot yield definite answers about the Exodus event, it does
allow us to evaluate the possible significance of an Exodus group, and
perhaps also the possible mechanisms that enabled the Exodus story to be
accepted by the Israelites and to achieve its "national" standing.
Further down the PDF is this
The Beginning: Merneptah’s Israel
and Onward
But when did "Israel" begin? We know that there was an ethnic (or “identity”) group by the name “Israel” already at the time of Merneptah. It is likely that during the long processes through which many groups joined in to become Israel (vis-a `-vis other groups) and were briefly described (above), the “Israel” group (the one mentioned in Merneptah’s stele) was very domi- nant, even if in the long-run its demographic significance was limited. While the importance of the identity of the early group will be further explained below, we must stress that it probably gave its name to the new ethnic group that was formed, and the other groups, families, and individuals that were incorporated into it throughout the Iron Age I became part of this "Israel." The growing Israel therefore received some (or much) of its habitus, traditions and “history” from this "core" group, though it is likely that the history and myths of other groups were included as well (see, e.g., Dever 1995: 210; see also Na’aman 1994: 231–247; Tubb 1998: 168–169; Knohl 2008). We do not know the size of Merneptah’s Israel, 5 but it absorbed new members throughout
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