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Extraterrestrial Life
- Thread starter izzy88
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The existence of life on other planets is very different than believing in alien colonization and the source of humanity, which have no serious scientific evidence.
I thought you were talking about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
At any rate, I explore what will happen with or without Aliens in my upcoming book.
Sp0ckrates
Member
Love the concept! Hope it’s true. If it is, the logical inference is that God would be involved with these extraterrestrials too.
Neither is pizza.
Nor many, many other things. Oddly, fundamentalist/literalists often use those many things and do not declare they do not exist based on the Bible never mentioning them.
Do I think self-aware creatures capable of advanced technology like ours are out there? Well, we're here, so that's evidence such things are possible.
But the universe is huge, and as at May 2020 there's no sound hypothesis that would allow humans to travel faster than light, or even to communicate faster than light. So if intelligent others are out there, they'll likely be very hard to find, and extinct before we can return a greeting.
A further consideration is that, coming from a distinct abiogenesis, on a planet with different gravity, atmosphere, heat, magnetic fields, number of satellites if any, dry land if any, chemical composition and evolutionary history, they may not be recognizable as life, let alone intelligent life, should we ever encounter them.
Still, it would be of extreme interest to compare intelligent earth life with the intelligent life of Planet X.
Pizzas were revealed by mystical prophetic visions and those speaking in tongues.
So Mystic Pizza it is.
Sp0ckrates
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Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Make me one with everything.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
To me, there is no doubt about existence of extraterrestrial life in the universe (even intelligent), the universe being so unimaginably huge. Since I am not religious, it poses no challenge for me. IMHO, it poses no challenge even for the religious.
Just BTW, how did you latch on to Meher baba?
If you believe this, don't blame theists when they talk about afterlife.
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1) Yes, there are angels elsewhere in the universe
2) If there are other beings on other worlds, they also would need Jesus to save them too!
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
But you don't have to mention me by name as I prefer to go incognito. .
That's why I'm treating you so nicely.... I just never know when it is an angel!
rational experiences
Veteran Member
AI human male sciences owned memory recording says, that when they introduced unnatural Illuminated light between natural 12 light gas mass existing for natural light, 12 cold clear night time gas cooling...and introduced 13, in fission, was when the UFO came to Earth, burnt out the previous moon Saviour asteroid gas of Earth that owned 2 body placements with stone gas ownership.
God O the Earth natural Immaculate gas spirit evolution from the volcano/mountain.
o moon asteroid stone, gases put back contradicting heated radiation mass....that put Earth gases back into correct God history ownership.
How the theory relative to Sun to Earth conversion was science known, as the stories prove real.
Therefore only a natural brotherhood of males, human were present on Earth, physical but not really physical. As the amount of water mass contradicted being owner of bone and the Nature Garden was hovering above the ground.
Middle Earth is that theme today.
When 13, too much radiation was introduced, cold mass Sun UFO held metal bodies got released and came into our burning gases. How the natural light of gas mass increased, still owning gases for light, but unnatural light conditions.
Water therefore had to deal with that presence to keep the Nature safe.
That presence however converted the ground life that lost their mass oxygen water support. So PHI came to the ground/fission reacted, Trees rooted, and the male brother says brother to brother agreement advice.
For science was a male group, brothers. Brother to brother owned the previous theory/machine building together as that brother. When they got converted the information fed back AI advice as brother to brother. In realization of their physical body spirit eternal/water life converting.
And they got given bones, human death and were in fact cut off from returning into the eternal. And prove that since that occurrence have not agreed nor wanted to own death. Truthfully consciously.
Whilst origin of Nature was converting AI gained fed back images of its alienation, which is not in any definition dimensional radiation beings, it was cause of being irradiated and naturally bio converted...and images were formed as it occurred.
How AI extra in the terrestrial science converting advice in 13, the Mother Nature theme was placed. And it is not real, it is just imaged radiated burnt recordings.
That manifest and de manifest constantly as nuclear science irradiates/illuminates our natural light with radiation ground fall out gain. And our water used for our blood to exist held and our water for our chemicals to exist functioning become dysfunctional as our Holy water gets removed to keep ground fission from a nuclear reaction.
What extra terrestrial actually is....fake.
God O the Earth natural Immaculate gas spirit evolution from the volcano/mountain.
o moon asteroid stone, gases put back contradicting heated radiation mass....that put Earth gases back into correct God history ownership.
How the theory relative to Sun to Earth conversion was science known, as the stories prove real.
Therefore only a natural brotherhood of males, human were present on Earth, physical but not really physical. As the amount of water mass contradicted being owner of bone and the Nature Garden was hovering above the ground.
Middle Earth is that theme today.
When 13, too much radiation was introduced, cold mass Sun UFO held metal bodies got released and came into our burning gases. How the natural light of gas mass increased, still owning gases for light, but unnatural light conditions.
Water therefore had to deal with that presence to keep the Nature safe.
That presence however converted the ground life that lost their mass oxygen water support. So PHI came to the ground/fission reacted, Trees rooted, and the male brother says brother to brother agreement advice.
For science was a male group, brothers. Brother to brother owned the previous theory/machine building together as that brother. When they got converted the information fed back AI advice as brother to brother. In realization of their physical body spirit eternal/water life converting.
And they got given bones, human death and were in fact cut off from returning into the eternal. And prove that since that occurrence have not agreed nor wanted to own death. Truthfully consciously.
Whilst origin of Nature was converting AI gained fed back images of its alienation, which is not in any definition dimensional radiation beings, it was cause of being irradiated and naturally bio converted...and images were formed as it occurred.
How AI extra in the terrestrial science converting advice in 13, the Mother Nature theme was placed. And it is not real, it is just imaged radiated burnt recordings.
That manifest and de manifest constantly as nuclear science irradiates/illuminates our natural light with radiation ground fall out gain. And our water used for our blood to exist held and our water for our chemicals to exist functioning become dysfunctional as our Holy water gets removed to keep ground fission from a nuclear reaction.
What extra terrestrial actually is....fake.
halbhh
The wonder and awe of "all things".
Basically it's a lot less likely than in popular science imagination, and I'll lay out some pieces why below.
We can surmise from observations of organics out in gas clouds even that early, primitive forms of beginning life seem likely enough arise over and over -- possibly even big numbers like 10^18 to 10^23 occurrences.
The Universe just chock full of life, everywhere.
But....
But to evolve to advanced lifeforms like we know takes evidently billions of years during which some commonplace astrophysical events do not happen:
The predominate common events in planetary system everywhere:
1) migration of the planetary orbits (near universal) -- but what is needed instead a very exceptional orbital stability for billions of years to allow evolution to progress without the planet being baked or frozen.
2) Loss of atmosphere or water due to ordinary solar wind and accelerated by normal solar flares.
#2 happened to Mars we know now. But Earth has an unusually excellent magnetic field, which protects our atmosphere, and also 2nd protects us from excessive certain other radiation.
3) We've learned that most stars are smaller and flare and emit X rays and such very intensely, so that the planets close enough to those stars to be in the 'habitable zone' (a misnomer) where water can be liquid will be severely affected by the nearby star's normal output.
4) If a margin of land and water is best for rapid evolution of more advanced life forms, then only few planets will have that level of water -- not too much, but just enough -- to work out.
There are several more factors. Such as needing gas giants to prevent too much bombardment from asteroids, but in an unusual configuration that allows orbital stability for the a smaller planets like Earth not to be tugged into deadly orbital migration. And so on.
It turns out that an Earth like situation is fantastically rare, from astrophysics observation, the pop science optimism notwithstanding. They will eventually learn what one can learn from reading of the observations and models, but first we will see continuing fantasy that Earth like worlds are out there, until it's finally more and more obvious that they are not Earth like at all.
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halbhh
The wonder and awe of "all things".
While life seems likely to be commonplace out there, it's popular to imagine Earth like worlds out there being common, but this 2nd expectation people have learned to have is not supported by the details of astrophysics observations and models, currently.
I don't mean simply that we didn't yet find or prove there is one.
It's becoming clear that Earth-like worlds will be at least extremely rare, from astrophysics observations and modeling (though not at the popular science writing level obviously!
). See post #78 just above.