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Factors preventing people from conversion to Islam
- Thread starter jasem
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Levite
Higher and Higher
We are forbidden from breaking the covenant: any other way but Judaism is prohibited to Jews, because that is our covenant. Obviously, if someone is so fargone as to convert to another religion, they will not care that they are breaking the covenant and will not care what they are doing to the Jewish people and their heritage. So I'm sure it doesn't bother them. But generally, I have noted that Jews who apostasize usually were raised very secularly, or received extremely insufficient Jewish education, and few meaningful Jewish experiences at home. So I usually say that when we suffer apostates, a great part of the fault lies with the rest of the Jewish People (mostly the parents of the apostates), for not educating these people sufficiently.
This has nothing to do with forbidding thinking. This has everything to do with the fact that Judaism is for Jews. Other religions are for non-Jews. It's not a measure of "rightness" or "truthfulness" or quality. Islam is a fine religion, that truly and excellently worships the One God, and I am sure good Muslims are rewarded every bit as much as good Jews are rewarded. But Islam is not for Jews. Judaism is for Jews. It's not a question of better or worse, just different.
The Jewish people are bound to our covenant. We cannot leave it, replace it, or alter it outside the ways in which we have been given to alter it.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I think the nonsensical and arbitrary rules, the homophobia, misogyny and other forms of bigotry, and the lack of respect for rights, freedom and equality all tend to turn a lot of people off from abrahamic religions (Islam, Judaism, Christianity) in general.
xkatz
Well-Known Member
I am happy with Judaism. It gives it me all the tools I need to be successful in life IMO.
1) The complete reliance upon a conception of God and rejection of Atheism.
2) The strong influence of dogma and excessive attachment to tradiction.
3) The lack of adequate ways of questioning tradiction, revising dogma and dealing with lifestyles that aren't strictly tradictional.
I don't think so, unless it is somehow included in what I mentioned above.
I don't think so either. I don't drink alcohol and I am somewhat fond of Islam's family ideals.
Then again, I can't very well support the lack of acceptance of homosexuality and transexuality that is apparently inherent to Islam.
Please share your thinking specially the ones who have converted to Islam or are willing to convert.
Not my case. I can't really consider a religion that depends on the idea of a Creator God.
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friends,
Personal understanding is that like the Bible the Koran too has been interpreted by people who were not enlightened and so as Lao Tsu had stated in Tao te Ching that words spoken are falsifications.
The crucial point of criticism of islam would be that the word [label] Allah is interchangeable with Brahman/Tao/etc. is the personal understanding but not accepted by followers of islam.
Once this is acceptable then the rest will follow as LIFE is common for all be they as forms or no-forms.
Love & rgds
Personal understanding is that like the Bible the Koran too has been interpreted by people who were not enlightened and so as Lao Tsu had stated in Tao te Ching that words spoken are falsifications.
The crucial point of criticism of islam would be that the word [label] Allah is interchangeable with Brahman/Tao/etc. is the personal understanding but not accepted by followers of islam.
Once this is acceptable then the rest will follow as LIFE is common for all be they as forms or no-forms.
Love & rgds
gnomon
Well-Known Member
What are the main factors that makes non-muslims be hesitated about converting to Islam?
I: Propaganda of western media about the stereotype of Muslims with radical-fundamental attitudes?
II: Difficulty of avoiding most of the forbidden habits like drinking alcohol and ...?
Please share your thinking specially the ones who have converted to Islam or are willing to convert.
The number one factor for me is that I'm an atheist.
edit: Not to be glib but let's just say that I find all notions of the supernatural irrelevant.
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Any religion that forbids you from enjoying bacon, beer, music and puppies is a dark and empty one.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
hahaha. that is the first reason I told my wife people would NOT convert to Islam. too lazy to pray 5 times a day and drinking habits.I'm too lazy to pray five times a day and I'm too fond of drinking.
I bet this is a myth.
Twig pentagram
High Priest
In order to be a muslim you must abide by the seven articles of faith. My intellect lead me away from the seven articles of faith.
jasem
Member
Good for you!!
jasem
Member
Dear members,
All of you that are hesitated to convert to Islam, just because of eating with both hands, it's not a matter of issue, as we don't have such a rule in Islam that has forbidden us to eat food by two hands, especially in Shiite group, so don't worry!! you can use your both hands and any other part of your body you like!!
All of you that are hesitated to convert to Islam, just because of eating with both hands, it's not a matter of issue, as we don't have such a rule in Islam that has forbidden us to eat food by two hands, especially in Shiite group, so don't worry!! you can use your both hands and any other part of your body you like!!
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I'm left handed - does that put me in league with shaitan?
Vendetta
"Oscar the grouch"
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