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They may, privately, believe any sort of tripe that they desire, I don't care, I have no issue with that. But when they take it out into the agora, when it threatens the future of the planet, when it attempts to warp the way future generations think, I have a right to demand that they justify their beliefs with something more than "I believe" or "it could be" or "you can't prove that is isn't so."
OK.
That sounds rather like the first thing, don't you think?
There are too many indefinite pronouns in your sentence, I do not understand it, what is "That" and what is the "first thing?"
Your pardon, sir. It seemed clear enough, but I'd just read through both relevant posts and phrased as if in real time conversation.
Haha... personal insults from you?? never! Does that mean you have no argument? I suppose so, otherwise you would give it, right?
Personal attacks again...... science is incomplete, and therefore wrong to one degree or another, that is why it changes, or if you like improves. Was there a need to tell me that? I don't hink so. Me thinks you have no answers. Paper bag...
Noooo.... is that another personal attack. I really do think you have no response do you. It must be really annoying, eh.
Somehow I think you don't. But thank you for the engaging discussion. Any ideas where everything coemes from yet? or is it I don't know?
It is spiritually discerned my friend, whether you like it or will accept it or not. Therefore it is known.
If you don't know the answer, don't tell me mine is wrong
That is what you have, blind faith in something natural somehow bringing about everything.
That shows how much you know
It is a definition of a word which obviously you don't accept. The prefix ''super'' only means above or beyond like supermodel or supercool etc
One does not prove God exists, as I keep telling atheists, and you refuse to accept. God proves not man. You will never accept this argument because, if you do, you have no argument. So you keep making a metaphysical argument into a physical argument, knowing then that you are an argument, however false. It won't do, sorry. You need to understand and accept what you are arguing.
yes... but this is before the concept that you know as God. This is a bigger topic than you think. Your rudimentary ideas are not sufficeint to deal with it.
see above
there was sin before the univese as sin is error, and error is the reason we are here. Each realm is separate though, so this universe would still be seen as clean and not in error, when in fact, if one were to compare it with the One that it comes from, ir clearly would be, but ONLY in comparison, not as a singular part.
False question. One is through intelligence and one through luck and magic (the atheist universe it seems). There is no other answer, though I stand to be corrected if you think you have an answer.
If you read a little more carefully, Oh wise one, you would find i am saying the opposite to that. Your answer no doubt is that you don't know where everything comes from, is that right?
Firstly, there are theories of where all things come from.
I like you... you don't think too much do you.
Its nice fried or grilled, well done, beautiful.As already pointed out - there is a difference between using a few Bible quotes to prove your point, and giving a sermon, or copy pasting a religious site, or posting pages of Bible verses to confuse everyone.
As to canned Spam, I used to eat it too (Hawaiians in my family.) Now I wonder how I ever ate it. I do however keep a couple cans of it in my speedboat locker, for emergencies. In Alaska you never know when you are going to have to duck into a sheltered cove, possibly for days, to weather a storm.
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Anecdotal means hearsay or secondhand accounts, which the resurrection was not. So false argument. You are right though, he is my friend.
Agreed. So what?
Evidence has to be interpreted though as it does not necessarily prove anything. Faith is because of evidence also, that being inward. It is not something that one plucks out of the air. You cannot believe in something you don't know.
It was not, even though that is the common understanding. You must understand that you speak of scripture, and scripture is always hidden, even to beleivers to a degree.... so what chance an atheist?
see above
So? It is still true as it stands, whether many copies later or not. what point you think you have made there I really don't know. It obviously satisfies you though.
Everything valuable is always hidden. It is not on display to keep people out. It is spiritually discerned, something atheist can't and won't accept.
There would be expected stories the same as Yahshuah, the consciousness of the logos works in a fractal way, hence the reason they sacrificed animals. That is not evidence against, but for, my friend.
But the point is, you come out of the room with a Rolex..... yet there was nothing in there. Don't you see the problem? That was the crux of his argumentc
You are trying to make a metaphysical argument a physical one again... It won't do you know. False argument!
It is not our job to prove God exists, it is YOUR job to turn your heart to him. God proves, man gives evidence.... evidence that atheist don't accept, because it is not proved first. A delusion is a delusion at the end of the day and as it is from God, impossible to break.
It is spiritually discerned, have I not told you this before!!! Feel free to keep ignoring it, haha
Why not get real yourself and show us a theory of where everything comes from then. We can wait. I wonder if it will be We don't know.