False Flags

[Nietzsche]

There's no reason to attempt a false flag... seems like everyday, someone takes the initiative for killing on their own.

BE GONE, IDOLATOR! WITH YOUR LOGIC & REASON! BACK TO THE WASTES WITH YE!

 

[dust1n]

BE GONE, IDOLATOR! WITH YOUR LOGIC & REASON! BACK TO THE WASTES WITH YE!

I think it goes to show how trivial violence really is: no one actually even remembers who kills and why they did it. So, it's quite in vain so many people go on random rampages, though everyone will forget them or their plight within a couple of weeks.

 

[Yerda]

For example the recent attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine, how it happened easily even though the magazine was threatened and supposed to be well protected ?

So, what are you proposing?

 

[Shad]

We really are scraping the barrel here. <sigh>

More like we are digging into the ground the barrel is on. The bottom of the barrel is long gone!

 

[FearGod]

So, what are you proposing?

Not proposing any thing but asking how easily they attacked the magazine even though that there were threats to do so, then where is the security, is it that hard to protect the magazine attacked by 2 terrorists ?

 

[Yerda]

Not proposing any thing but asking how easily they attacked the magazine even though that there were threats to do so, then where is the security, is it that hard to protect the magazine attacked by 2 terrorists ?

Hard enough I presume.

 

[jonathan180iq]

Not proposing any thing but asking how easily they attacked the magazine even though that there were threats to do so, then where is the security, is it that hard to protect the magazine attacked by 2 terrorists ?

???

It's a small building that people walk into and out of all the time. How many businesses on your street have airport-tight security? All anyone has to do is walk into a place and start shooting... It's not even all that difficult. Why view crazy human behavior has something other than that?

 

[Nietzsche]

Not proposing any thing but asking how easily they attacked the magazine even though that there were threats to do so, then where is the security, is it that hard to protect the magazine attacked by 2 terrorists ?

Most people don't expect religious nuts to barge into a building whos greatest crime is having a crappy cartoon and start shooting people because they insulted their supposedly omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent sky-daddy(who apparently can't defend himself against such harsh, harsh criticism like gasp, cartoons) and an illiterate desert-dweller who claimed to be another of his prophets.

You can have all the protection in the world and it amounts for nothing when there are people who want to die to please that aforementioned sky-daddy.

 

[FearGod]

Most people don't expect religious nuts to barge into a building whos greatest crime is having a crappy cartoon and start shooting people because they insulted their supposedly omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent sky-daddy(who apparently can't defend himself against such harsh, harsh criticism like gasp, cartoons) and an illiterate desert-dweller who claimed to be another of his prophets.

You can have all the protection in the world and it amounts for nothing when there are people who want to die to please that aforementioned sky-daddy.

Are you sure that they didn't expect terrorists to do so ?

 

[Nietzsche]

Are you sure that they didn't expect terrorists to do so ?

Are you aware of the idea of "knowns"?

Known Knowns
Known Unknowns
Unknown Knowns
Unknown Unknowns

Stuff like that?

 

[FearGod]

Are you aware of the idea of "knowns"?

Known Knowns
Known Unknowns
Unknown Knowns
Unknown Unknowns

Stuff like that?

But it was known that the terrorists may do it since they threatened to do so.
The unknown is how a magazine can't be protected from such attack.
lack of policemen ?

 

[columbus]

Not proposing any thing but asking how easily they attacked the magazine even though that there were threats to do so, then where is the security, is it that hard to protect the magazine attacked by 2 terrorists ?

Are you sure that they didn't expect terrorists to do so ?

I am not a mind reader, so I am not absolutely sure of anything. But I am very certain that what happened was a group of terrorists watched and waited for a hole in the security that they could use.

I don't know where you live, but in most western places "tight security" isn't that tight because we value freedom of movement and association and such. This would have been easier than robbing a bank and that happens.

I see no reason to suspect anything other than what has been reported. I think it far more likely that there is a much larger group of Muslims helping and supporting the terrorists we actually know about than French collusion.

That is why people want to hear condemnation from other Muslims.

Tom

 

[FearGod]

That is why people want to hear condemnation from other Muslims.

Tom

Any one will condemn such awful act regardless of what his religion is.

The scripture nor the prophet promote killing the innocents, ones opinion isn't a justification to kill him.

The prophet fought who fought him by the sword which means man to man and never killed an armless men and even he ordered not to kill any woman, child and old men of the enemy.

So asking Muslims specifically to condemn such awful acts is indeed a stupid thing to ask for.

 

[Frank Bunneh]

How can terrorists make such attacks in such an easy way ?

Go to a department store in the mall and buy a pair of shoes, return the next day with the empty box in the store bag and walk around a bit just to see if anyone stops you. Most likely no one will stop you because they figure you either bought a pair of shoes or are returning something if they notice you at all. You could have had a few pistols, a small bomb, or something else in that shoebox- that is how easy it can be.

 

[FearGod]

Go to a department store in the mall and buy a pair of shoes, return the next day with the empty box in the store bag and walk around a bit just to see if anyone stops you. Most likely no one will stop you because they figure you either bought a pair of shoes or are returning something if they notice you at all. You could have had a few pistols, a small bomb, or something else in that shoebox- that is how easy it can be.

But is it that easy to buy pistols and bombs in France to use it for killing the innocents?

 

[columbus]

Any one will condemn such awful act regardless of what his religion is.

This is false and you know it.

Even if only a small fraction of Muslims support this sort of thing, it is tens of millions.
Frankly, I am very certain that they have a network of supporters in France.

Tom

 

[Nietzsche]

So asking Muslims specifically to condemn such awful acts is indeed a stupid thing to ask for.

We don't ask you to condemn them. We just want to know that the majority of Muslims are not this way. It's the same we hope of Catholics in response to pedophile priests.

 

[FearGod]

This is false and you know it.

Even if only a small fraction of Muslims support this sort of thing, it is tens of millions.
Frankly, I am very certain that they have a network of supporters in France.

Tom

How you know that it is false and help me to know as i don't know ?

 

[FearGod]

We don't ask you to condemn them. We just want to know that the majority of Muslims are not this way. It's the same we hope of Catholics in response to pedophile priests.

We are wondering as you do, innocent people are killed in Syria and Iraq and they are Muslims.
So how a Muslim kills a Muslim in Syria,Iraq and other places, why Muslim don't kill each other in the west as it happens in the ME.

The known unknown works here maybe.

 

[Nietzsche]

We are wondering as you do, innocent people are killed in Syria and Iraq and they are Muslims.
So how a Muslim kills a Muslim in Syria,Iraq and other places, why Muslim don't kill each other in the west as it happens in the ME.

The known unknown works here maybe.

Eh? Could you say that in another way, because it's hard for me to decipher.