Father alone is God

[rational experiences]

Basic human question.

Did you man human men human invent creation?

The answer no.

Did creation exist created?

Yes.

Did you tell a story about God changing evicting humans out of nature garden and quote it Adam?

Yes he says.

So scientist was God speaking?

Yes.

Who does a human scientist think he is bodily?

Everything.

A fact of self evidence lying.

You are not space X mass.
You are not suns X mass.
You are not stars by mass.
You are not planets by mass.
You are not gases by mass.
You are not water by mass.

What you claim the spirits of the gods are.

Why you said as brother against brother also a fact no man is God

Basic

Relative.

Human inventors destroyed creation as. Copy reaction and are named in the bible by science to be the destroyer.

A fact.

Did a machine built by a human invent creation any topic you discuss?

No. Basic.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

“For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice From that time forward, even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.” Isaiah‬ ‭9:6-7‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

I see in the ^ above^ post that a title for Jesus is Mighty God ( It does Not say: Almighty God )
Remember too: God is a title and Not a personal name. Just like the two (2) LORD/Lords of Psalms 110.
Because God gave Jesus the power of the resurrection is why Jesus has the title of Everlasting Father.
The word ' father ' means: life giver. By means of the Resurrection then Jesus gives us life. - Rev. 1:18.
God's kingdom (Daniel 2:44) is the government (thy kingdom come...) over which Jesus will govern for a thousand years.
Then, Jesus hands back God's kingdom to his God according to 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.

The zeal of the LORD... will perform this. Notice the word LORD is all capital letters as at Psalms 110.
This is because the LORD in ALL Upper-Case letters stands for LORD God ( Tetragrammaton )
Whereas, the Tetragrammaton does Not apply to the other Lord ( in some lower-case letters ) Jesus.

 

[rational experiences]

Other evidence.

Man says mass humans

Man says mass as gods powers.

Compares.

Says he can remove mass of human man like he can mass of God.

The moment his psyche became our destroyer by claiming mass loss by his choices.

Basic human advice.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

“And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭4:8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

...and I find at John 4:23-24 Jesus instructed as to who to worship.
LORD in ALL Upper-Case letters stand for LORD God (Tetragrammaton YHWH)

 

[rational experiences]

I see in the ^ above^ post that a title for Jesus is Mighty God ( It does Not say: Almighty God )
Remember too: God is a title and Not a personal name. Just like the two (2) LORD/Lords of Psalms 110.
Because God gave Jesus the power of the resurrection is why Jesus has the title of Everlasting Father.
The word ' father ' means: life giver. By means of the Resurrection then Jesus gives us life. - Rev. 1:18.
God's kingdom (Daniel 2:44) is the government (thy kingdom come...) over which Jesus will govern for a thousand years.
Then, Jesus hands back God's kingdom to his God according to 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.

The zeal of the LORD... will perform this. Notice the word LORD is all capital letters as at Psalms 110.
This is because the LORD in ALL Upper-Case letters stands for LORD God ( Tetragrammaton )
Whereas, the Tetragrammaton does Not apply to the other Lord ( in some lower-case letters ) Jesus.

Fact. Fact scientific human intelligent advice. Science by various groups owning status highest correct selves. Human.

Burning gases in a vacuum not named as human ownership is constant of light.

Science man human expressed says constant of light. Constant of light held in space.

Human not there. Human does not own the position.

Not a man ownership. Gases as gas. As gas mass are burning. We are a human not a gas spirit.

Science said a human is not a spirit by that very claim. No argument allowed.

Man satanist thinker inventor by invention thesis only says your first invented mass spirit is evil. By thesis man. Human. But man human thinking did thesis machine. Machine reaction.

Ownership exactly his mental problem lying. We are not the constant of light.

Science man says reaction is only inside my machine is not natural light constant. First machine spirit is evil.

Why Satanists who claim human origins began with an evil spirit not even human origins a gas burning are liars. Our destroyer.

If it were not true no human story would have been stated by that science claim by holy humans for humans.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

The body HE took had mystery divine nature. It was not formed by sperm or egg. What do you think it means: Immaculate conception? Here is a question for you, how did Judas betray Jesus His Pre-Eminence? They people made it clear they knew where HE came from, and where HE stayed.

Not all 12 year old girls go through puberty at 12. Some younger, some older. In Blessed Virgin Mary case, she had not yet started. Let me put it as simple as possible for you. The reason why HE knew no sin, is because HE didn't have blood in HIS body.

Actually maybe you should study it more. The idea of Immaculate Conception says that Mary was conceived without sin. It has nothing to do with Jesus. And exactly how do you know if Mary had reached puberty or not? I am sure the Bible says nothing about this. And when the soldiers put a spear in Jesus side, blood came out so the idea there was no blood in hus body is false.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

You believe what you want. God sent his only begotten son.

And you certainly believe what you want. At least I have reasons for believing what I believe.

 

[Yahcubs777]

Actually maybe you should study it more. The idea of Immaculate Conception says that Mary was conceived without sin. It has nothing to do with Jesus. And exactly how do you know if Mary had reached puberty or not? I am sure the Bible says nothing about this. And when the soldiers put a spear in Jesus side, blood came out so the idea there was no blood in hus body is false.

Sin is mortality. HE made HIMSELF mortal at the last supper. That is when HE took the sin of Mankind, Adam.

 

[Yahcubs777]

Actually maybe you should study it more. The idea of Immaculate Conception says that Mary was conceived without sin. It has nothing to do with Jesus. And exactly how do you know if Mary had reached puberty or not? I am sure the Bible says nothing about this. And when the soldiers put a spear in Jesus side, blood came out so the idea there was no blood in hus body is false.

mary wasn't an immaculate conception. It was twisted to explain how Jesus His Pre-Eminence was born without sin. But the truth is HE was born with the kind of body that is not produced by sperm or egg.

 

[ElishaElijah]

...and I find at John 4:23-24 Jesus instructed as to who to worship.
LORD in ALL Upper-Case letters stand for LORD God (Tetragrammaton YHWH)[/

I see in the ^ above^ post that a title for Jesus is Mighty God ( It does Not say: Almighty God )
Remember too: God is a title and Not a personal name. Just like the two (2) LORD/Lords of Psalms 110.
Because God gave Jesus the power of the resurrection is why Jesus has the title of Everlasting Father.
The word ' father ' means: life giver. By means of the Resurrection then Jesus gives us life. - Rev. 1:18.
God's kingdom (Daniel 2:44) is the government (thy kingdom come...) over which Jesus will govern for a thousand years.
Then, Jesus hands back God's kingdom to his God according to 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.

The zeal of the LORD... will perform this. Notice the word LORD is all capital letters as at Psalms 110.
This is because the LORD in ALL Upper-Case letters stands for LORD God ( Tetragrammaton )
Whereas, the Tetragrammaton does Not apply to the other Lord ( in some lower-case letters ) Jesus.

True in Psalms 110 that Yahweh said to Adonai, but then you take that to mean Yeshua is not God, when He is. Adonai is God the Son, Yahweh God the Father.

 

[moorea944]

mary wasn't an immaculate conception. It was twisted to explain how Jesus His Pre-Eminence was born without sin. But the truth is HE was born with the kind of body that is not produced by sperm or egg.

[But the truth is HE was born with the kind of body that is not produced by sperm or egg.]
We don't know that. I'm sure sperm wasn't part of this at all. There was no reason for that. God's power made Mary pregnant. And how did that exactally happen? We dont know. But, I"m sure that God planted a seed or egg in Mary and Jesus grew from that. That I can see. Also keep in mind that we are all born sinless. What newborn baby even knows what sin is? Mary also had to do a sin offering when she had Jesus too don't forget.

If Jesus did pre-exist, which we know that he didn't, why go through this father and son thing.... If Jesus is the second person in the trinity, which he isn't, and co-equal with the father, why was he chosen to be the son. How come he wasn't chosen to be the father? How come the Bible doesn't say that God is coming down to earth or a pre-existence second God is coming down to earth to do his thing....... says the opposite. Jesus was born a man with the same nature as us. (Heb 2)

 

[ElishaElijah]

...and I find at John 4:23-24 Jesus instructed as to who to worship.
LORD in ALL Upper-Case letters stand for LORD God (Tetragrammaton YHWH)

And yet Jesus is worshipped in Heaven and on Earth. Why is that ok? Because Jesus is God

 

[Yahcubs777]

[But the truth is HE was born with the kind of body that is not produced by sperm or egg.]
We don't know that. I'm sure sperm wasn't part of this at all. There was no reason for that. God's power made Mary pregnant. And how did that exactally happen? We dont know. But, I"m sure that God planted a seed or egg in Mary and Jesus grew from that. That I can see. Also keep in mind that we are all born sinless. What newborn baby even knows what sin is? Mary also had to do a sin offering when she had Jesus too don't forget.

If Jesus did pre-exist, which we know that he didn't, why go through this father and son thing.... If Jesus is the second person in the trinity, which he isn't, and co-equal with the father, why was he chosen to be the son. How come he wasn't chosen to be the father? How come the Bible doesn't say that God is coming down to earth or a pre-existence second God is coming down to earth to do his thing....... says the opposite. Jesus was born a man with the same nature as us. (Heb 2)

HE was called Immanuel, which means GOD with us. Jesus His Pre-Eminence is GOD. The Most Holy Spirit of GOD is who was in the earth as Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

It isn't that GOD said, let there be a body, and the body was there. Like how HE said: let there be light, and there was light. Even that was not explained well. In Genesis 1, when HE said let there be light, And there was light, it was HIS Word that was the Light. It was revealing to us, that HIS Word is Light.

John the beloved revealed to us, that Jesus His Pre-Eminence is the Word. But that was not explained well either. So the people that are literal, then tried to link the two, claiming that is when Jesus His Pre-Eminence was brought forth. No, this is not the case. Rather, Jesus His Pre-Eminence personified the Word of GOD; HIS WORD. If the Word of GOD which HE sends to the Law Moses, and the hearing of the Prophets, who then teach the children of the kingdom what GOD said, that Jesus His Pre-Eminence is what you look at to see how HIS Word is.

The body that HE took from the Blessed Virgin Mary is not HIS own body. HE came to Abraham as Melchizadek. Whose womb did HE take that body from? The body that HE took from the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary, was Word made. Which means that, the Word of GOD, which has micro-sculpting Properties, which is what "living and active" meant, coupled the body in the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

That body was not mortal. Notice, that HE walked on water with that body? And HE did miracles with it. And HE commanded the winds, and they could not touch HIM even though they tried many times. Until the message came where HE said: I have the power to lay down my life and to pick it up again. No man takes it from me, and then HE made HIS body mortal at the last supper. And that was revealed in the revelation that HE changed wine to HIS blood.

No baby is born without sin, except Jesus His Pre-Eminence. And that sin is mortality. Not that the chilld can help that, but it is the thing that separates us from GOD. And it is also the very thing that gave death its place. Meaning every mortal ages, falls sick,and at a point, whether by ageing or accident, or poison, can die. Death is not in heaven. It is only here in this terrestrial earth. Death was called the enemy for a reason.

If Jesus His Pre-Eminence had the same nature as us, how come HE could be perfect?

 

[moorea944]

HE was called Immanuel, which means GOD with us. Jesus His Pre-Eminence is GOD. The Most Holy Spirit of GOD is who was in the earth as Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

It isn't that GOD said, let there be a body, and the body was there. Like how HE said: let there be light, and there was light. Even that was not explained well. In Genesis 1, when HE said let there be light, And there was light, it was HIS Word that was the Light. It was revealing to us, that HIS Word is Light.

John the beloved revealed to us, that Jesus His Pre-Eminence is the Word. But that was not explained well either. So the people that are literal, then tried to link the two, claiming that is when Jesus His Pre-Eminence was brought forth. No, this is not the case. Rather, Jesus His Pre-Eminence personified the Word of GOD; HIS WORD. If the Word of GOD which HE sends to the Law Moses, and the hearing of the Prophets, who then teach the children of the kingdom what GOD said, that Jesus His Pre-Eminence is what you look at to see how HIS Word is.

The body that HE took from the Blessed Virgin Mary is not HIS own body. HE came to Abraham as Melchizadek. Whose womb did HE take that body from? The body that HE took from the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary, was Word made. Which means that, the Word of GOD, which has micro-sculpting Properties, which is what "living and active" meant, coupled the body in the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

That body was not mortal. Notice, that HE walked on water with that body? And HE did miracles with it. And HE commanded the winds, and they could not touch HIM even though they tried many times. Until the message came where HE said: I have the power to lay down my life and to pick it up again. No man takes it from me, and then HE made HIS body mortal at the last supper. And that was revealed in the revelation that HE changed wine to HIS blood.

No baby is born without sin, except Jesus His Pre-Eminence. And that sin is mortality. Not that the chilld can help that, but it is the thing that separates us from GOD. And it is also the very thing that gave death its place. Meaning every mortal ages, falls sick,and at a point, whether by ageing or accident, or poison, can die. Death is not in heaven. It is only here in this terrestrial earth. Death was called the enemy for a reason.

If Jesus His Pre-Eminence had the same nature as us, how come HE could be perfect?

[HE was called Immanuel, which means GOD with us. Jesus His Pre-Eminence is GOD. The Most Holy Spirit of GOD is who was in the earth as Jesus His Pre-Eminence.]
Again.... your using words and phrases that arent in the bible... Why? Why do you feel that you have to "makeup" words.. Really not understanding this...

But yes, that's what Immanuel means. God with us. But we also have to remember that Jesus "came in God's name". And... everybody knew that too. God was working through his son as if God was here on earth himself, but we know that that's not the case. No one can see God and live.

[It isn't that GOD said, let there be a body, and the body was there. Like how HE said: let there be light, and there was light. Even that was not explained well.]
I think that WAS explained well. God spoke and his power created things.

[John the beloved revealed to us, that Jesus His Pre-Eminence is the Word. But that was not explained well either. So the people that are literal, then tried to link the two, claiming that is when Jesus His Pre-Eminence was brought forth. No, this is not the case. Rather, Jesus His Pre-Eminence personified the Word of GOD; HIS WORD. If the Word of GOD which HE sends to the Law Moses, and the hearing of the Prophets, who then teach the children of the kingdom what GOD said, that Jesus His Pre-Eminence is what you look at to see how HIS Word is.]

Stop using words that aren't in the bible!!!!! That's what is messing you up!!!! Ughhhhh......

[The body that HE took from the Blessed Virgin Mary is not HIS own body. ]
What???? Can you please give us a verse on that?

[HE came to Abraham as Melchizadek.]
Who came as Melchizadek, Jesus? I hope your joking...... First of all, Jesus wasnt born yet. And scripture tells us who Melchizadek was....

[ Whose womb did HE take that body from?]
Your terminology is way off, really not understanding where your going with this....

[That body was not mortal. Notice, that HE walked on water with that body? And HE did miracles with it.]
Im wondering if your just reading the verses you want to just read....

Scripture tells us that God was working "through" his son. Also in Acts 2, along with other chapters, those miracles that everyone saw Jesus do... were God's miracles. And that God was working through his son. And.... that everyone knew that.... How come you dont?.... just curious....

[No baby is born without sin, except Jesus His Pre-Eminence.]
A baby is born with a nature that is prone to sin, meaning that he will.. eventually sin....

And again, Pre-eminence is not in scripture....

[ And that sin is mortality. Not that the child can help that, but it is the thing that separates us from GOD. And it is also the very thing that gave death its place. Meaning every mortal ages, falls sick,and at a point, whether by ageing or accident, or poison, can die. Death is not in heaven. It is only here in this terrestrial earth. Death was called the enemy for a reason.]
Correct, that is why God is using his son to bring us back to God.. (2 Corin 5)

[If Jesus His Pre-Eminence had the same nature as us, how come HE could be perfect?]
Jesus DID have the same nature as us. (Heb 2). How can he be perfect? What does scripture tell us... God was working through his son. Easy answer, it's not a mystery, not hard language. God manifestation. God working through his son.

 

[Yahcubs777]

[HE was called Immanuel, which means GOD with us. Jesus His Pre-Eminence is GOD. The Most Holy Spirit of GOD is who was in the earth as Jesus His Pre-Eminence.]
Again.... your using words and phrases that arent in the bible... Why? Why do you feel that you have to "makeup" words.. Really not understanding this...

But yes, that's what Immanuel means. God with us. But we also have to remember that Jesus "came in God's name". And... everybody knew that too. God was working through his son as if God was here on earth himself, but we know that that's not the case. No one can see God and live.

[It isn't that GOD said, let there be a body, and the body was there. Like how HE said: let there be light, and there was light. Even that was not explained well.]
I think that WAS explained well. God spoke and his power created things.

[John the beloved revealed to us, that Jesus His Pre-Eminence is the Word. But that was not explained well either. So the people that are literal, then tried to link the two, claiming that is when Jesus His Pre-Eminence was brought forth. No, this is not the case. Rather, Jesus His Pre-Eminence personified the Word of GOD; HIS WORD. If the Word of GOD which HE sends to the Law Moses, and the hearing of the Prophets, who then teach the children of the kingdom what GOD said, that Jesus His Pre-Eminence is what you look at to see how HIS Word is.]

Stop using words that aren't in the bible!!!!! That's what is messing you up!!!! Ughhhhh......

[The body that HE took from the Blessed Virgin Mary is not HIS own body. ]
What???? Can you please give us a verse on that?

[HE came to Abraham as Melchizadek.]
Who came as Melchizadek, Jesus? I hope your joking...... First of all, Jesus wasnt born yet. And scripture tells us who Melchizadek was....

[ Whose womb did HE take that body from?]
Your terminology is way off, really not understanding where your going with this....

[That body was not mortal. Notice, that HE walked on water with that body? And HE did miracles with it.]
Im wondering if your just reading the verses you want to just read....

Scripture tells us that God was working "through" his son. Also in Acts 2, along with other chapters, those miracles that everyone saw Jesus do... were God's miracles. And that God was working through his son. And.... that everyone knew that.... How come you dont?.... just curious....

[No baby is born without sin, except Jesus His Pre-Eminence.]
A baby is born with a nature that is prone to sin, meaning that he will.. eventually sin....

And again, Pre-eminence is not in scripture....

[ And that sin is mortality. Not that the child can help that, but it is the thing that separates us from GOD. And it is also the very thing that gave death its place. Meaning every mortal ages, falls sick,and at a point, whether by ageing or accident, or poison, can die. Death is not in heaven. It is only here in this terrestrial earth. Death was called the enemy for a reason.]
Correct, that is why God is using his son to bring us back to God.. (2 Corin 5)

[If Jesus His Pre-Eminence had the same nature as us, how come HE could be perfect?]
Jesus DID have the same nature as us. (Heb 2). How can he be perfect? What does scripture tell us... God was working through his son. Easy answer, it's not a mystery, not hard language. God manifestation. God working through his son.

All of what I said is in the bible. You need to read the whole bible to see where. I see the only thing you post is sauls books. It was in sauls books that it is written that Jesus His Pre-Eminence, has Pre-Eminence in all things. Yet you called HIM the Son of GOD... So HE did things before HIS Father? Like saul you are very confused. Just like Saul called HIM the second Adam, yet said HE has Pre-Eminence in all things. How then can HE be the second Adam?

Father Adam, is the Son of GOD. Jesus His Pre-Eminence is the GOD and Father of Adam, who came into the earth in the shoes of the Son of GOD, to bail Mankind Adam, His Eminence.

Sin is mortality. The nature that is imperfect, is the mortal nature. Prone to sin is just nonsense that you preacher taught you.

I am reading the bible, not as your would read newspaper, or read a book, but as the Words that were written are Living and Active, Spiritual and life Giving.

Jesus His Pre-Eminence, who is the GOD the Son, came as Melchizadek to Abraham. HE was called the Prince of Salem. Who do you think it was? Do you know the new earth is called: The New Salem? Salem also means peace. Who is the Prince of Peace? You told me HE is the Son of GOD.

And finally, GOD does not speak and HIS power does one thing or another. You make it sound like magic. GOD's Word has micro-sculpting Properties, which means that it can bring that which is intangible, into tangible reality. Its not faith, its not belief, nor is it magic. HIS Word is Living and active. HIS Word cannot return to HIM void. HIS word has life because its Spirit Born.

The GOD whose source of power is HIMSELF, HIS Spirit Being and not HIS Word, But HIS Word has life because its Spirit Born. GOD is not a magician.

Finally, you all claim to be born again, which means GOD is working in you too, are you perfect as you are the way HE is?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

True in Psalms 110 that Yahweh said to Adonai, but then you take that to mean Yeshua is not God, when He is. Adonai is God the Son, Yahweh God the Father.

I can say Yahweh (YHWH) is God the Father, the KJV 'LORD' of Psalms 110.
I can say Yeshua (No Tetragrammaton ) is the other 'Lord' of Psalms 110, but Not: God the Son.
Jesus truthfully answers telling the truth as to who he is at John 10:36 ___________________

Adonai is the title for Sovereign Lord, but Not a personal name
Elohim (God) is also a title and Not a personal name YHWH.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

And yet Jesus is worshipped in Heaven and on Earth. Why is that ok? Because Jesus is God

Saying 'Jesus is worshipped in Heaven and on Earth' does Not mean that is what the Bible really teaches.
The word 'worship' sometimes is translated into English from the words meaning to 'bow down'.
A bowing down does Not have to mean worship, but a respectful reverential bowing down.
I find No Scripture saying: Jesus is worshipped in Heaven and on Earth _____________

 

[Yahcubs777]

I can say Yahweh (YHWH) is God the Father, the KJV 'LORD' of Psalms 110.
I can say Yeshua (No Tetragrammaton ) is the other 'Lord' of Psalms 110, but Not: God the Son.
Jesus truthfully answers telling the truth as to who he is at John 10:36 ___________________

Adonai is the title for Sovereign Lord, but Not a personal name
Elohim (God) is also a title and Not a personal name YHWH.

Then why does he tell the Apostles to tell no man that HE is the Christ, the Son of the Living GOD? And why did HE feed the mulitude with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish? And why did HE say: HE that has seen me, has seen the father?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Then why does he tell the Apostles to tell no man that HE is the Christ, the Son of the Living GOD? And why did HE feed the mulitude with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish? And why did HE say: HE that has seen me, has seen the father?

Chip off the old block, so to speak. Remember: No one can see God and live - John 1:18
People saw Jesus and lived.
Why feed the multitudes because they were hungry.
Plus that shows us what Jesus will be doing during his reign over Earth - please see Psalms 72:12-14
I find at Matthew 16:16 that Peter, as spokesman, says that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.
See also John 6:69

 

[Yahcubs777]

Chip off the old block, so to speak. Remember: No one can see God and live - John 1:18
People saw Jesus and lived.
Why feed the multitudes because they were hungry.
Plus that shows us what Jesus will be doing during his reign over Earth - please see Psalms 72:12-14
I find at Matthew 16:16 that Peter, as spokesman, says that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.
See also John 6:69

That has not been explained well. Because the people haven't understood that GOD can proceed from HIMSELF, body from body, Spirit from Spirit, which HE must do to enter into a planet that HE Formed and hung on air. For HE is bigger than any planet that HE created. So to enter into a planet physically, HE has to Proceed from HIMSELF as GOD the Son. And it doesn't stop there. HE can also Proceed from HIMSELF, and either keep HIS Glory, or Not. And that is called, "Prosubstantiation", and without HIS Glory, as HE did as Melchizadek is "transubstantiation".
They wrote no man can see GOD and live, Adam did. Adam is a man.

What that verse means, is that all the children of the kingdom, who were in the fathers Bosom before being sent into this earth, saw GOD, and they were baptised into a body that can die. And the Allegory of this, is in Isaiah 6

8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.

10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,

12 And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.

13 But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.

This is an allegory, of what Isaiah remembered from the Fathers Bosom, before GOD programmed him in the soul, and baptized him into the mortal body that was forming in his biological mothers womb.

So, every child of the kingdom has seen GOD.

Secondly, HE fed the multitudes to reveal to the people that HE is the GOD that fed their fathers in the wilderness. HE also fulfiled Psalms 23 in that.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

Then compare this to Matt 24:

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.