Fear of Guns

[SomeRandom]

I have no real fear of gun violence. But I live in a country with gun restrictions so, I guess it never occurs to me to care that much.
Feel bad for my US brethren though

 

[Nakosis]

I kept one in the USA.

ONE near death experience with a sadist
was way more than a convincing case
for being able to protect myself.

Sorry you went through anything like that.

I'm a big guy so no one bothered me.
Some have call a gun the great equalizer.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

The problem of disarming is that it really needs
100% compliance. We can fantasize about that.
But it won't happen.

You don't need to have 100% compliance to have a significant reduction. And we don't use that kind of logic with other bans. (Like my aforementioned example of bans on owning exotic cats.) Just because some people can access the black market doesn't mean all of them will, or that it won't make black market trading and supply more difficult.

Note: I'm against full stop gun bans. Auto rifle bans, high ammo clips, stronger paper trails, testing and licensure more akin to car licenses, yes. All gun bans? No.

 

[Nakosis]

I have no real fear of gun violence. But I live in a country with gun restrictions so, I guess it never occurs to me to care that much.
Feel bad for my US brethren though

Yes, we have that pesky 2nd amendment to deal with.
I'm sure it seemed like a good idea to the founding fathers at the time.

 

[Bathos Logos]

How reasonable do you think is is to fear death by gun violence?

You are more likely to die from covid.
You are more likely to die in an unintended accident.
You are more likely to commit suicide.

Than be a victim of gun violence.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-09-508.pdf

Does that make you feel better?

Not at all, and it shouldn't. I would take death by any of the other items on your list before I would death by gun violence. I would rather not spend my last moments understanding that a fellow human being had the malicious forethought to end my life horrifically, nor would I want those last moments to be found with me dying at the hands of a coward. Granted, moments later, it wouldn't matter to "me" (having been obliterated and no longer existing, of course), but the very last thing I see is some vile micro-brain holding the completely mistaken thought in his mind that he's tough because he's pointing a gun at me? No thanks.

 

[Revoltingest]

You don't need to have 100% compliance to have a significant reduction. And we don't use that kind of logic with other bans. (Like my aforementioned example of bans on owning exotic cats.) Just because some people can access the black market doesn't mean all of them will, or that it won't make black market trading and supply more difficult.

Note: I'm against full stop gun bans. Auto rifle bans, high ammo clips, stronger paper trails, testing and licensure more akin to car licenses, yes. All gun bans? No.

I favor controlling who has the guns rather than
the type & number. I know too many people who
have them, yet just aren't responsible enuf.
Stringent training requirements alone would
likely cause many to decide gun possession
isn't for them.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I favor controlling who has the guns rather than
the type & number. I know too many people who
have them, yet just aren't responsible enuf.
Stringent training requirements alone would
likely cause many to decide gun possession
isn't for them.

I'd rather not have, as an extreme example, napalm in circulation at all. No matter how much someone says they cross their heart and promise to be responsible with it.

 

[SomeRandom]

Yes, we have that pesky 2nd amendment to deal with.
I'm sure it seemed like a good idea to the founding fathers at the time.

At the time sure lol

 

[Nakosis]

I favor controlling who has the guns rather than
the type & number. I know too many people who
have them, yet just aren't responsible enuf.
Stringent training requirements alone would
likely cause many to decide gun possession
isn't for them.

So more stringent control of who has access to firearms?

Seems reasonable but the politicians argue bans on one side vs arming teachers on the other.

Don't exactly understand why the right, enough of the right won't support reasonable gun access control.

 

[Suave]

I have strong natural immunity against C.O.V.I.D. as well as me having MRNA vaccine induced immunity against C.O.V.I.D.-19. Whereas, I have zero immunity against death by a gunshot wound. Hence, I can rationally have more fear of me dying from gun violence than the fear I have of me dying from CO.V.I.D..19.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

How reasonable do you think is is to fear death by gun violence?

You are more likely to die from covid.
You are more likely to die in an unintended accident.
You are more likely to commit suicide.

Than be a victim of gun violence.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-09-508.pdf

Does that make you feel better?

Not really. I'm terribly allergic to bullets fired from guns. I break out in little holes.

 

[Nakosis]

Not really. I'm terribly allergic to bullets fired from guns. I break out in little holes.

My uncle took me out shooting when I was 7.
Even at 7yo I knew which way to point the thing.
Of course I grew up watching Gun Smoke, Big Valley, and oh yeah, Raw Hide.
My grandmother told me I used to run about the house singing the Raw Hide theme song when I was 3.

 

[Audie]

Sorry you went through anything like that.

I'm a big guy so no one bothered me.
Some have call a gun the great equalizer.

Im 5 ft tall, if I wear sandals.

" God made men, Colt made them equal"

Not that i want to be equal, as such.

 

[Suave]

How reasonable do you think is is to fear death by gun violence?

You are more likely to die from covid.
You are more likely to die in an unintended accident.
You are more likely to commit suicide.

Than be a victim of gun violence.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-09-508.pdf

Does that make you feel better?

According to the CDC, gunshot wounds are now the leading cause of death among American children and American teens. There is smart gun technology for child-proof firearms, Please let us consider a federal law mandating the firearms of any child's legal guardian be smart-gun compliant.

Civilian - SmartGunz LLC

 

[Revoltingest]

I'd rather not have, as an extreme example, napalm in circulation at all. No matter how much someone says they cross their heart and promise to be responsible with it.

Fortunately, napalm doesn't appear
to be the weapon of choice.

 

[Audie]

You don't need to have 100% compliance to have a significant reduction. And we don't use that kind of logic with other bans. (Like my aforementioned example of bans on owning exotic cats.) Just because some people can access the black market doesn't mean all of them will, or that it won't make black market trading and supply more difficult.

Note: I'm against full stop gun bans. Auto rifle bans, high ammo clips, stronger paper trails, testing and licensure more akin to car licenses, yes. All gun bans? No.

I am very far from an " expert". I owned a
little pistol for a couple of years. Learned to
shoot it. Guys thought it fun at shooting range
to let me fire AK-47 or AR15 or who knows
what those other scary / exciting thungs are.

But I do kind of know about unintended
consequences and workarounds for laws.

And sort of thinking things through.
Like one gun i fired was a shot gun. Push this
lever. Put a shotshell. Close and bang. A 100 dollar farmer gun. So i was told.
You could probably shoot that 10 to 20 times
a minute.

Ten or twenty dead people in a minute.

What use is it to outlaw expensive guns?

 

[Audie]

Fortunately, napalm doesn't appear
to be the weapon of choice.

Unintended consequence of gun ban?

But why bother when theres ordinary gasoline?

 

[Revoltingest]

So more stringent control of who has access to firearms?

Seems reasonable but the politicians argue bans on one side vs arming teachers on the other.

Don't exactly understand why the right, enough of the right won't support reasonable gun access control.

The left doesn't advocate reasonable gun control
either. If they aren't demanding banning military
look-alikes, they're extolling the virtues of feckless
measures like Clinton's 1994 bill that did nothing
but inspire increasing production of the guns he
wanted less of. Was he a fool, or just playing on
the fears of clueless anti-gunners? The latter.

 

[Revoltingest]

Unintended consequence of gun ban?

But why bother when theres ordinary gasoline?

Because napalm is sticky gasoline.
That makes it more dangerous.

 

[Audie]

Because napalm is sticky gasoline.
That makes it more dangerous.

This topic is making me kinda nauseous.

But thetes just too many ways to kill
a lot of people.