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Florida Mass Murder

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I seriously doubt that a person legally authorized to carry a handgun concealed
could have stopped the shooter unless the legally armed person were pretty cool, calm,
and collected and close enough to take the mad man out with a kill shot.
I don't carry a gun any longer but I might considering carrying again in light of
this issue.
I am very skilled in defensive shooting given my background.
I sure has #ell don't ever want to be in a position to use a weapon to take
anyone's life.
Be assured I would but I don't ever want to.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
They're now saying 50 dead, 53 injured.

Edit: the news just said that this makes it the worst mass murder in US history.

Edit 2: they corrected themselves: it's the worst mass shooting in US history. I guess the World Trade Center attacks still rank higher.
 
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Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
All I can say is the shooter was one sick mother f'er!!
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I am trying to find the words but I know it won't change anything. It does bother me that this thread is already starting to try and politicise it even as they are still pulling bodies out. It's really very twisted that indifference feels like such a natural response given that anger is diffused into political deadlock. It's the state we are in. That sucks.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Guns everywhere that's would lead to crimes everywhere.

Christina Grimmie Died | Killed at Concert | Christina Grimmie Shot Dead

Oh, please. Guns do NOT lead to crime.
PEOPLE DO.
It's so easy to focus on an an object than focus on the person that commits a
horrific act.
We don't lobby to ban cars when drunk drivers kill innocents, sometimes killing
an entire family.
The gun, by itself, can do NOTHING.
It takes an evil, sick, person to use it to commit horrific crimes.
This Orlando shooting was clearly a crime against LGBT people.
Was the shooter a Muslim? A Christian?
Does that matter?
#ell YES it matters.
It matters as to motive.
It matters not at all to the dead.
The latest t-v coverage indicates the shooter was a Muslim.

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/muslim-extremist-arrested-murder-gays-seattle

http://www.infowars.com/sweden-muslim-migrants-batter-gay-man-to-death-wrap-snake-around-his-neck/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dical-Muslims-new-thirst-killing-justice.html

I won't post ALL the news on radical Islam attacks on non-Muslims or targeting
gay people.
It's all on the net.
I'm not denouncing Islam, the religion of peace.
The news is legit the politics are not.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Question? Are there Christian groups that commit mass murder in the name of
"God" or Jesus in today's world?

One of the few web sites that give politically Incorrect news about Islam.

Jihad Report
May, 2016

Attacks 231
Killed 1883
Injured 2206
Suicide Blasts 54
Countries 31
List of Attacks
From the site I referenced.
I am NOT anti-Islam.
I AM anti murder no matter the "justification".
Oh, let's blame the GUN for heavens sake's.
We simply must melt down the MILLIONS of guns in the world and make this
earth a safer place.
While we are cleansing the world lets ban knives, and any sharp instrument, bombs,
explosives of any type, bodies of water where someone might drown....................
ad nauseam.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I am trying to find the words but I know it won't change anything. It does bother me that this thread is already starting to try and politicise it even as they are still pulling bodies out. It's really very twisted that indifference feels like such a natural response given that anger is diffused into political deadlock. It's the state we are in. That sucks.

I don't think people are necessarily indifferent, just emotionally numbed by the routine. And of course it's going to be politicized when the tragedy is centered atop two hot-button issues: terrorism and gun rights.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
If that's true, Trump will home in on it, "Arm the gays with more guns"

Wanna bet gay people aren't buying guns right now?
Bet LOTS of people are arming themselves.
I suspect there will be more of these attacks worldwide.
The religion of peace don'cha'know.
I suspect gun control has little to do with this issue.
In a perfect world there would be NO guns.
Or drunk drivers, or armed robbers, or ding-bats or............................................
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Continued updates here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...-nightclub-shooting-terrorism-suspect-updates

The local hospitals are asking for blood donations. The Florida chapter of the council on American- Islamic relations (CAIR-FL) has called on members of the Muslim community to donate blood to victims of the attack.


ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Don't EVER think C.A.I.R. is a friend to anything but radical Islam.

CAIR Has Been Identified By The Government At Trial As A Participant In An Ongoing And Ultimately Unlawful Conspiracy To Support A Designated Terrorist Organization, A Conspiracy From Which CAIR Never Withdrew

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

Google C.A.I.R. and educate yourselves please.
 

Palehorse

Active Member
I don't think people are necessarily indifferent, just emotionally numbed by the routine. And of course it's going to be politicized when the tragedy is centered atop two hot-button issues: terrorism and gun rights.

Don't forget.....................

th
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Yet another terrorist attack from those Islamists who will not assimilate, we are seeing enclaves now in the US just as we see in France and this is probably going to be the worst mass shooting in US history and of course, of course it is an Islrmic terrorist and the Islamic terrorist was SPECIFICALLY targetting homosexual men but all gays in general.

Obama is bringing in 100 "Syrian" so-called refugees a day - Muslim men of military age, many, many not from Syria but from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, HIV positive from Somalia, from Libya, Egypt, on and on not Syrians at all while he discriminates against Syrian Christians who are the actual victims and the actual refugees, and a lot of this is the fault of Hillary Clinton and her "Arab Spring" crap supporting "the rebels" who largely are worse than the dictators she had killed.

Homosexuals you will now be killed in your own "refuge".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html

What I find disgusting is Hillary's tweet in Mexican "My thoughts are with those affected by this horrific act" - never missing what she thinks is another political opportunity and her stupid open borders crap, what a horrible act itself is her horrible campaign to cover up problems she helped create. The FBI ALREADY had this guy under investigation - now the same Obama "Justice" Department will try to cover this up and say it is not an Islamic terrorist attack - and think of it, targetting homosexuals and especially homosexual men. Our police and SWAT teams are under attack by the Obamanists, yet thank God for them for if not them and the grenade that tripped up this terrorist we would have had 300+ dead and it would have spread outside of the club to others.

I do not think this guy is "alone". He has his friends still alive.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't think people are necessarily indifferent, just emotionally numbed by the routine. And of course it's going to be politicized when the tragedy is centered atop two hot-button issues: terrorism and gun rights.
Not to mention LGBT rights and Muslim extremism.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Oh, please. Guns do NOT lead to crime.
PEOPLE DO.
It's so easy to focus on an an object than focus on the person that commits a
horrific act.
We don't lobby to ban cars when drunk drivers kill innocents, sometimes killing
an entire family.
The gun, by itself, can do NOTHING.
It takes an evil, sick, person to use it to commit horrific crimes.
This Orlando shooting was clearly a crime against LGBT people.
Was the shooter a Muslim? A Christian?
Does that matter?
#ell YES it matters.
It matters as to motive.
It matters not at all to the dead.
The latest t-v coverage indicates the shooter was a Muslim.

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/muslim-extremist-arrested-murder-gays-seattle

http://www.infowars.com/sweden-muslim-migrants-batter-gay-man-to-death-wrap-snake-around-his-neck/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dical-Muslims-new-thirst-killing-justice.html

I won't post ALL the news on radical Islam attacks on non-Muslims or targeting
gay people.
It's all on the net.
I'm not denouncing Islam, the religion of peace.
The news is legit the politics are not.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Question? Are there Christian groups that commit mass murder in the name of
"God" or Jesus in today's world?

One of the few web sites that give politically Incorrect news about Islam.

Jihad Report
May, 2016

Attacks 231
Killed 1883
Injured 2206
Suicide Blasts 54
Countries 31
List of Attacks
From the site I referenced.
I am NOT anti-Islam.
I AM anti murder no matter the "justification".
Oh, let's blame the GUN for heavens sake's.
We simply must melt down the MILLIONS of guns in the world and make this
earth a safer place.
While we are cleansing the world lets ban knives, and any sharp instrument, bombs,
explosives of any type, bodies of water where someone might drown....................
ad nauseam.

Indeed people do, crimes more with guns,and weapons,and bombs.

I believe a society without guns is more safer than with guns, and less accidents.

Child shoots dad, mom: toddler accidentally fires handgun, shoots both his parents with one bullet

the exemple that you post about Muslims, all about that guns and weapons are available because the West want.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Oh, please. Guns do NOT lead to crime.
PEOPLE DO.
It's so easy to focus on an an object than focus on the person that commits a
horrific act.
We don't lobby to ban cars when drunk drivers kill innocents, sometimes killing
an entire family.
The gun, by itself, can do NOTHING.
It takes an evil, sick, person to use it to commit horrific crimes.
A firearm is a force multiplier. One person with no weapons could hurt or kill a few people, but you don't get 103 people killed or hospitalized in a fistfight or even a knife attack.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
A firearm is a force multiplier. One person with no weapons could hurt or kill a few people, but you don't get 103 people killed or hospitalized in a fistfight or even a knife attack.
indeed the gun machine is could had multi consequences than knife.

kill and hurt 103 people with one person using a knife is like a miracle.
 

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