For those claiming to be Christians who don't believe that Jesus is G-d...

[psychoslice]

How on earth could a little speck called Jesus be God, its just too ridiculers to even consider.

 

[McNap]

It is important, this isn't a trick question.

I appreciate your sense of responsibility.
Im very interested in anybody elses interpretation myself.

 

[McNap]

This is good, and true and I had a similar thought today. The direction or a person's life does not change with any of the different beliefs about who Jesus is. The direction of a person's life surely DOES change with the obedience to all his words! It is much more important to listen, learn and act by his words than it is to form a picture of who he might be.

How is a person's life suppose to change whether Jesus is God, an angel or the son of God? I vote none of the above because son of God isn't on the list.

I didnt vote because I do believe that Jesus is god.
But I think you’re right. Its easier to just see him as the son of god, so we may unite our conscience in this view.
I can follow you as long as you think the words comming out of the mouth of Jesus were gods words. Even if you believe Jesus is not god.
So it is for his works. They are gods work.
No man gave him the idea to do this. It came from heaven.
Thats for sure.

Paul said even the weakness of god is stronger than the people (1 cor. 1:25).
I believe Jesus is that weakness.

 

[savagewind]

I didnt vote because I do believe that Jesus is god.
But I think you’re right. Its easier to just see him as the son of god, so we may unite our conscience in this view.
I can follow you as long as you think the words comming out of the mouth of Jesus were gods words. Even if you believe Jesus is not god.
So it is for his works. They are gods work.
No man gave him the idea to do this. It came from heaven.
Thats for sure.

Paul said even the weakness of god is stronger than the people (1 cor. 1:25).
I believe Jesus is that weakness.

:yes:

 

[Desert Snake]

I appreciate your sense of responsibility.
Im very interested in anybody elses interpretation myself.

I'm not sure responsibility has anything to do with it. I assumed people would care about how many deities they're worshipping etc., that's all. Not a big deal.

 

[dawny0826]

Do you worship Jesus? Isn't that polytheism, if you do?

If you don't worship Jesus, is that really Xianity?

I worship Jesus and I'm a Trinitarian. I'm not polytheistic.

I don't consider those who don't acknowledge Christ as Savior to be Christian.

 

[Desert Snake]

I don't consider those who don't acknowledge Christ as Savior to be Christian.

Agreed, neither do I.

 

[Matityahu ben Avraham]

You can view it that way, however the question is still, does believing that Jesus isn't G-d, yet divine and worshipped, signify two Deities etc.[/QUOTE

That would depend upon how worship is defined. Also, angels are divine beings, but not deities.

 

[Matityahu ben Avraham]

I worship Jesus and I'm a Trinitarian. I'm not polytheistic.

I don't consider those who don't acknowledge Christ as Savior to be Christian.

And not recognizing Jesus as savior has what to do with people believing he's G-d or not? Keep in mind that JWs, Non-Trinitarian deity of Christ believers, and Socinian Unitarians (like the Christadelphians) believe that Christ is Savior. the JWs and the Socinians don't however believe he's G-d. the Oneness Pentecostals believe He's G-d, but don't believe G-d is a Trinity of Persons.

 

[Matityahu ben Avraham]

To Clarify my answer. by "worship" I simply mean "to give homage to".

and yes, I believe Yeshua Natzraya is the one to be Mashiyach ben Daviyd (NOT just Mashiyach ben Yosef.)

 

[dawny0826]

And not recognizing Jesus as savior has what to do with people believing he's G-d or not? Keep in mind that JWs, Non-Trinitarian deity of Christ believers, and Socinian Unitarians (like the Christadelphians) believe that Christ is Savior. the JWs and the Socinians don't however believe he's G-d. the Oneness Pentecostals believe He's G-d, but don't believe G-d is a Trinity of Persons.

I am a Trinitarian and am Christian. I've made no claim that one who rejects the Trinity can't be Christian. I've never talked down to another Christian for rejecting the Trinity. I have however, been criticized by those of other Abrahamic faiths for embracing the Trinity, which is tiresome, particularly, when those throwing daggers misunderstand and misrepresent my beliefs.

Again, I personally do not consider one who rejects Christ as Savior to be Christian. This is my opinion. Take it or leave it.

 

[Matityahu ben Avraham]

I am a Trinitarian and am Christian. I've made no claim that one who rejects the Trinity can't be Christian. I've never talked down to another Christian for rejecting the Trinity. I have however, been criticized by those of other Abrahamic faiths for embracing the Trinity, which is tiresome, particularly, when those throwing daggers misunderstand and misrepresent my beliefs.

Again, I personally do not consider one who rejects Christ as Savior to be Christian. This is my opinion. Take it or leave it.

again, what does "rejecting Christ as Savior" have ANYTHING to do with others rejecting him as G-d? You do realzie that you can do the latter and NOT do the former right? And the question. And yes, people of other Abrahamic religions (like Judaism and Islam) are going to criticize your acceptance of the Trinity, it makes sense, they are NON-TRINITARIAN faiths BY DEFINITION. The issue in this thread is about CHRISTIAN groups who BELIEVE Yeshua is Messiah and a savior but reject him as G-d.

 

[nazz]

Do you worship Jesus?

Yes

Isn't that polytheism, if you do?

could be considered that in some sense

If you don't worship Jesus, is that really Xianity?

the important thing is trust in Jesus as savior, not any one theological view

 

[roger1440]

How on earth could a little speck called Jesus be God, its just too ridiculers to even consider.

"The Lord works in mysterious ways"

 

[roger1440]

Of the four canonical Gospels, it’s only in the Gospel of John that Jesus said he was God. Most Christians view Jesus through the lens of John's Gospel.

 

[Desert Snake]

Of the four canonical Gospels, it’s only in the Gospel of John that Jesus said he was God. Most Christians view Jesus through the lens of John's Gospel.

I'm not sure. In my discussions with 'Xians' I've come across quit a bit of 'son of god', seems to be separate from G-d type theology. The literal 'Jesus is G-d' belief that I espouse is at most only partly agreed on. Now, this is a forum setting, so who knows. That's just my limited interactional observances.

 

[nazz]

Of the four canonical Gospels, it’s only in the Gospel of John that Jesus said he was God.

Where?

 

[Desert Snake]

I should add, I don't just go along with everything written in Scripture, it was written by people after all.

 

[roger1440]

Where?

Twelve times in the Gospel of John, Jesus uses the phrase "I am". That's the name God told Moses. "Tell them I am sent you."

 

[roger1440]

Where?

Jesus's last words were "It is finished". His work is done. Same with God in the creation story.